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Quote (Arsenic_Touch @ Tue, 2 Dec 2008, 06:21)
I'm sorry but this won't work, and i doubt it's possible. This just opens users to more scam attempts because a mediator won't be holding anything.

Mediator gets the item and the fg and gives it to the correct person. There is nothing safer than that.

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in the system you're suggesting, one person would have to give first, because there wouldn't be a mediator holding the item

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Dec 2 2008 07:28am
no because like a few said already there are exploitable sides to this suggestion , its a bad idea...

the best way is to use a mediator.

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Sounds like the person who put the fg in the "mediation system" could just click that he's not satisfied, get his fg back, and run off with the items.
It's safer to just go with the Mediators we already have.
I voted no.
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Quote (Arsenic_Touch @ Tue, Dec 2 2008, 06:21am)
I'm sorry but this won't work, and i doubt it's possible. This just opens users to more scam attempts because a mediator won't be holding anything.

Mediator gets the item and the fg and gives it to the correct person. There is nothing safer than that.


Did you read all of what I wrote? If one person does not receive his item it flags the system to prevent any scam attempt. By flagging the system, the fg is not returned unless the mods investigate the accusation report. Some people are too lazy to get meds cause its a slow process in most cases. So if they do end up being scammed in the normal system, by the time they post the accusation, the guy has already scammed 5 people. Instead this system does not return the fg to the scammer unless the moderator investigates it.

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Quote (Robbeh @ Tue, Dec 2 2008, 02:43pm)
Sounds like the person who put the fg in the "mediation system" could just click that he's not satisfied, get his fg back, and run off with the items.
It's safer to just go with the Mediators we already have.
I voted no.


You too obviously didn't read the whole suggestion. If he clicks he is not satisfied, and the other person says he submits the item, then there is a contradiction so the system is flagged and fg is not returned unless the moderators investigate in the scammer accusation.
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Quote (Djsem @ Tue, Dec 2 2008, 06:55am)
hmm...

it could work to prevent the scammer from gaining anything but then would use it to attack other users and rape their fg


After you read my suggestion, please explain to me the flaws in my system that would allow fg to get raped.
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Quote (Cadet133 @ Mon, Dec 1 2008, 11:57pm)
Ok I noticed that a new scammer accusation pops out every couple of minutes. To minimize this why don't we have an automatic Forum Gold Mediation System. What this system does is it holds fg temporary until both sides are satisfied with the trade.

Ex:- Lets say someone wants to trade their perfect Griffons for 500fg. The buyer who will be paying the seller 500fg would send the 500fg to a Mediation Bank. This bank holds the fg.The seller then sends the Griffon to the buyer. Once the buyer confirms that he received the item and seller confirms that he sent the item, the bank automatically transfers the fg to the seller.

The Feedback:-
The first thing happens is the buyer sends 500fg to the bank.
Once the seller sees that 500fg is in the mediation system, he sends the item to the seller.
When the seller and buyer both confirm that they are satisfied, they click accept and 500fg is transferred to the seller
If one side does not accept (the buyer sends 500fg to the bank but does not receive item), he flags the system and takes the necessary screenshots etc and threatens the scammer that he will post it if he does not send item. The scammer has no choice because lets say he decides not to give the item, he has his 500fg sitting in the reserve which he won't be able to retrieve so technically he lost the 500fg unless proven innocent by the moderators when the scammer accusation is posted.

The good thing about this system is forum gold is easily returned to the owner in cases of a scamming attempt. Wheres without the system a person can run away with fg and start scamming alot of people before he eventually gets locked. If the system goes wrong (one side does not accept) then there is a scam attempt and the scammer wont get his item/ fg back until investigation or until he gives up what he owes.


I like the idea but Idon't think its possible to do


Quote (Arsenic_Touch @ Tue, Dec 2 2008, 12:21am)
I'm sorry but this won't work, and i doubt it's possible. This just opens users to more scam attempts because a mediator won't be holding anything.

Mediator gets the item and the fg and gives it to the correct person. There is nothing safer than that.


I agree 100%

This post was edited by xXxNeCroSiSxXx on Dec 2 2008 09:51am
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Quote (Cadet133 @ Tue, 2 Dec 2008, 17:41)
After you read my suggestion, please explain to me the flaws in my system that would allow fg to get raped.


A player could simply send the 500 to a friend and pretend he send it to the medi system.

since there is no way the system would know with whom you trade (acording to what you wrote in this post so far)

he could just say he had send them and make a false approvement.

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Quote (fzy @ Tue, Dec 2 2008, 03:49pm)
A player could simply send the 500 to a friend and pretend he send it to the medi system.

since there is no way the system would know with whom you trade (acording to what you wrote in this post so far)

he could just say he had send them and make a false approvement.


Well the other player who is sending the item would notice that no 500fg was sent to the medi system so therefore no way in hell is he going to send the item.
The approvement isn't basically saying you did. The system sends you a message and you confirm it. If both sides contradict (one clicks accept and other one declines) then there is a scam attempt and system is flagged.

This post was edited by Cadet133 on Dec 2 2008 09:59am
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Quote (Cadet133 @ Tue, Dec 2 2008, 07:32am)
Did you read all of what I wrote?  If one person does not receive his item it flags the system to prevent any scam attempt. By flagging the system, the fg is not returned unless the mods investigate the accusation report. Some people are too lazy to get meds cause its a slow process in most cases. So if they do end up being scammed in the normal system, by the time they post the accusation, the guy has already scammed 5 people. Instead this system does not return the fg to the scammer unless the moderator investigates it.


Quote (Cadet133 @ Tue, Dec 2 2008, 07:36am)
You too obviously didn't read the whole suggestion. If he clicks he is not satisfied, and the other person says he submits the item, then there is a contradiction so the system is flagged and fg is not returned unless the moderators investigate in the scammer accusation.


Quote (Cadet133 @ Tue, Dec 2 2008, 07:41am)
After you read my suggestion, please explain to me the flaws in my system that would allow fg to get raped.


Please use the Edit button next time, because you just had 3 back to back posts smile.gif


It has potential to be a good idea if it was thought through fully and relatively easy to code and implement, but it sounds to me like it would have problems in both the logistics of it and the coding.
I voted yes, but along with that are the expectations that it will be modified and perfected to suit everyones needs (even though it likely won't ever happen)
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