whats the ring look like.

edit ok if its stone gyre yea i prob woudn't have paid 350. I would have actually charsied it <.< but that's also because i don't buy anything without 6 useable mods. So partially bias.

This post was edited by Rydia on Oct 20 2025 03:22pm

did a quick training with my shop. and i will also price this ring at around 400 fg if its on nonladder softcore. below is the generated result

Facts (normalized)

10 FCR — fixed baseline.

6% Mana Leech — 100% of ML max.

10 @res — 10 / 11 ≈ 91% of the all-res max.

33 LR total (10 from @res + 23 single LR) — 33 / 41 ≈ 80.5% of the combined max single-res.

Qualitative assessment

This ring is resist-heavy with maxed ML. That is valuable for hybrid/tank support builds and for players wanting both sustain and high elemental mitigation.

Missing major value drivers: no Strength/Dex, no Life, no Mana pool, no AR, no Rep. Those are the stats that push rings into the 1k+ tiers.

The resist rolls here are high by combined standards (all-res ≈91%, single ≈80%), which raises the ring above simple ML rings. ML being maxed is a meaningful plus but gains most value when paired with a large Mana pool / AR / Str or high Life — which this ring lacks.

Price estimate

Estimated price range: 350 – 900 fg.

Most likely realistic sale price: ~450–550 fg (I’d pick ~500 fg as a single best estimate).

Reason: the ring’s combination of max ML + very strong all-res + very strong single LR moves it solidly into the mid/high mid tier. It won’t reach the top tiers without Str/Dex/Life/Mana, but the resist quality alone (with 6ML) supports a premium relative to the simple 150–300 fg ML rings.

Quick tactical advice

If you want faster sell speed: list at ~400 fg and be open to offers.

If you want maximum return and can wait: start around 700–900 fg and expect negotiations down into the 450–600 fg area.

If you want, I can (right now) convert this into a numeric “value score” using the weights and map it to your dataset so we can price consistently across rings. Which do you prefer?

This post was edited by acershaw on Oct 20 2025 03:52pm

come buy my rings/ammys with ur assessment please.

i can easily do a buyer version of the assessment. that assessment is for selling. read carefully.

There's no substitute for experience and game knowledge. You were lucky to get 350 for that ring.. there was nothing particularly valuable about it. It looked kinda cute but wasn't actually good. If you're playing casually.. rares worth posting on jsp aren't something that you will see very often. A lot of the items you're posting are the types of items that I'd stash and give away to new players.. because they're good enough to keep but selling them may prove difficult.

Furthermore.. nothing is set in stone here. There are some observable market trends and patterns that become clear when you pay enough attention... but that's it. Pricing rares in particular is like interpreting modern art.

You should be following the point system because it still holds true. I have no idea why you're disregarding it like it failed you because you almost let a winning lottery ticket slip through the cracks or something. Life and mana leech hold no value on the point system... and for good reason. 6ll/6ml on a ring is 2ll/2ml in hell. Use this graph. Anyways.. you're more than welcome to hmu if you feel inclined.

I think you'd learn a lot more committing to a ladder season. Ladder just has a far healthier economy... and is much friendlier to new players. That's where you should be listing self found stuff. Lot of NL players here are old money.. with established characters that only creep out from the shadows to polish an existing build or something. Lots of NL listings are big ticket pvp items. All the super GGz of each ladder season wind up here.

That’s ChatGPT or some kind of AI, right? Do you trust its results? It’s clear that it’s working well for you, but I’m asking because I literally spent 4–5 hours trying to train my own item appraiser, and the results were disastrous. And that’s despite having quite a bit of experience working with AI models.

I think your appraisal is pretty accurate, except for the fact that the ring is softcore-ladder — maybe that gives it a bit of extra value (I’m not sure).

I originally posted it here, included in the pack and having no idea it had any value → https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=107156434&f=271&o=0#p678880210

Two people messaged me privately offering 50fg for it — quite insistently and in a hurry — saying I wouldn’t find a better offer. Luckily, a kind-hearted user sent me a PM warning me that the ring fits decently for a java build and that I should ask for a price check before selling it. That’s why I opened the post in PC. The user who valued it at 50fg on pc post — and even contradicted those saying it was worth more — is one of the two who originally messaged me privately.

I know the amounts we’re talking about are ridiculous, but I got SO ANGRY that they tried to scam me that I’ve spent several hours trying to build a reliable system — mainly AI-based — to appraise my items so something like that doesn’t happen again xd

PS: I suspect it’s AI, and the fact that several of your bumps include frequently the word “procrastinate” is pretty much confirmation of it lool



Thanks a lot for your comment. Indeed, this has been the first ladder I’ve played, and it’s almost like playing a completely new game. I’ve learned more in a couple of weeks than in several months before.

The problem with the point-based system is that it helps me tell whether something is trash/usable/valuable/very valuable, but not how to quantify it in fgs. The earlier comments from some users — like the one who said appraising rares is like appraising modern art — are quite revealing in that regard.

By the way, I also have my stash full of junk like that, and then I jump into “a1 start” games and just drop xd