good. Helathcare is a scam from a price point of view in the us.. I had a kidney stone once.. LOL got stuck had 3 CT scans.. 9k, the machine is probably 15 years old.
how is that justified?

So your go-to example where you, not society, gets the benefit is physician? Wow, you really do have a warped view of reality.

Wages for physicians aren't determined by the cost of education to attain the position in the United States as much as they are determined by the lack of medical schools and residencies turning out certified professionals. A doctor isn't a good illustration of your point anyway since that 200k increased wage comes with literally over a million dollars of extra cost for the typical physician.... mostly from interest on loans.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Apr 16 2020 10:34am

medical school averages out to cost 150k, where are you getting these fabled 1+million dollars figures?

I could provide sources for the figures i'm quoting, while you're making shit up as you go.

Undergraduate education, that starts acruing interest while you are in medical school, medical school debt, that acrues interest as you go and while you are in residency, and there's a lot lot lot more, like boards, cost of living while you aren't working that also adds debt, etc. etc. There's a tooooooon of stuff beyond just the average tuition (which means half actually pays more, which will accrue more interest, which drags the average cost up harder than the below average brings it down).

Then if you add in opportunity cost for lost wages while you're in medical school and residency it stacks up even harder.





Oh, and I almost forgot. You defaulted to "you can't possible be right, you're making shit up" when you know I've lived this. Lazy!

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Apr 16 2020 10:45am

You can't have your cake and eat it too buddy. If you want free everything don't expect to make crazy money.

Awwww man, dude. You've totally destroyed me. Getting shit fucked then just making a bold face reassertion of your original point.... that's the best counter to any argument. Brilliant. 10/10

does Thor strike you as the type of person that would choose to make 150k/year knowing poor people dont have insurance if he could instead make 75k/year and have the poor people of the USA insured?

you're talking to a liberal, making less personally for poor people is kind of their whole thing maaaaaaaaan.

Are you reading his posts? He just said doctors deserve much higher salaries in the US compared to places like Germany because of opportunity costs, so it does seem like he thinks they should be making more.

He wants free college, free healthcare, free whatever else but then tries to justify the overwhelmingly higher salaries of skilled professionals like doctors because of opportunity cost...as if those same opportunity costs don't exist in Germany or for other professions.

My point is simple, if you want socialized costs expect to give up some of the benefit from high earning professions. You want to be like Germany? Great then expect this for a salary for a doctor.

Germany doesn't have physician shortages like we have. The reason doctors in the U.S. make so much money isn't because they have to take on a lot of debt, it's because we have a massive shortage of qualified professionals, and with students begging to get into medical school and residencies every year it's not because the cost has deterred students.

yes, i am. drs need to make more here because of how much it costs to become a doctor. he wants to lower those costs, and by proxy their pay. he's in favor of the type of things that will lower doctor pay, NOT in favor of those policies and keeping dr pay high.