wat

Tesla's miles per colission is way way way lower than their competitors, and that's AFTER they were caught automatically disabling the AI when a collision detected as imminent (so it doesn't register as a collision with AI active).

Tesla's autonomous driving is basically in last place as it currently stands. If you use it you're basically signing your own death certificate.

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Jul 14 2022 05:55pm

Can you share the data you found?

Looking for the original source. This isn't really a controversial claim. Waymo has thousands of times more miles per disengagement than Tesla. The most recent numbers I remember had Tesla at like single digits of miles per disengagement, and Waymo had literal thousands or tens of thousands of miles. Tesla hasn't really made progress on their autonomous driving in over 5 years whereas other major players are actually making big leaps.

If I can't find it tonight before I have to do something I'll look tomorrow after work.



https://twitter.com/taylorogan/status/1458169941128097800


This isn't where I originally found it but I found a twitter thread that outlines sources for comparison between competitors.



https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/15/data-shows-tesla-accounts-for-most-reported-driver-assist-crashes-but-officials-warn-report-lacks-context.html

Tesla had 273 crashes, next highest was Waymo at 63. Tesla overall accounts for 73% of recorded incidents in the entire country. Looking for total miles driven, but Tesla would have to have many times more total miles than basically all their competitors combined to bring them out of last place.

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Jul 14 2022 06:23pm

wat...

Tesla the only leader in non-mapped autonomous driving. Tesla is actually producing a mass commercial product; Waymo is not. Are you really impressed with what Waymo has been doing and has accomplished in 13 years; 7 years of that backed by a Trillion dollar company?

Either way "The NHTSA report also shows that "in the majority of incidents" among those 16 under close investigation, the Teslas activated their forward collision warnings and automated emergency braking systems, so it wasn't as though the drivers were given zero time to react, though it isn't mentioned how far in advance of impact those kicked on. In 11 of the crashes, none of the drivers took any action between two and five seconds before impact, indicating they, like Autopilot, didn't detect the impending collisions, either."

Or it indicates the driver wasn't paying attention. Regardless, we aren't talking about AI vs driver. We're talking about AI vs AI.

You're pulling things out of context. It doesn't matter if Tesla is mass producing a commercial product. Not every driver has access to the AI program.

Tesla has one one thousanth the distance traveled per disengagement, and has more accidents than the rest of the field combined.

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Jul 14 2022 06:25pm

When I have cruse control on and I slam into the back of a car at a red light... is this also out of context?

Autopilot technology on (Autosteer and active safety features):
Q3 2021: one accident for every 4.97 million miles driven (up 8%)
Q4 2021: one accident for every 4.31 million miles driven (up 25%)

I'll take my odds... with numerous updates since the above.

I just told you that they were caught actively disabling their autopilot when a collision was detected.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/06/15/tesla-autopilot-crashes

So the numbers you're quoting are not reliable.

I think you should step back and ask yourself why you just used numbers to support your argument that you were just told a few minutes ago aren't reliable. I think you're making a snap judgement because you like Musk or Tesla.

Anyway I got some stuff I have to do. It's all out there. Tesla is not anywhere near the lead in developing autonomous driving, either in terms of safety or miles without having to take manual control.

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Jul 14 2022 06:32pm

How much has Tesla paid in settlements due to lying about the below?

"The NHTSA order required manufacturers to disclose crashes where the software was in use within 30 seconds of the crash, in part to mitigate the concern that manufacturers would hide crashes by claiming the software wasn’t in use at the time of the impact."

Tesla is the leader in full-self driving. Waymo cannot function outside of its preprogrammed routes.

This post was edited by S3th on Jul 14 2022 06:35pm

Nice red herring.

I get you have an emotional attachment to Tesla, but seriously dude I'm not bringing up anything that is controversial. Tesla can still be a valuable company and be behind the pack in developing of autonomous driving.