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Mar 12 2020 07:52am
Quote (ofthevoid @ Mar 12 2020 08:44am)
trillions of wealth wiped out all over the world

People talk about how the virus is super dangerous and we should do everything to stop it. Closures, travel bans, etc. But do people care or understand the long term economic ramifications of doing so?

You have millions of people with pensions close to retirement or are retired that just got a significant shave. Even if you're holding bonds, yields have plummeted. If i was 55+ i'd be really concerned with this more so than the virus imo. A normal middle class family in their 50s or 60s probably just got a 200-300k shave in their portfolio over the span of two months.

So now if you were expecting a fixed draw down of lets say 5k a month from your portfolio, you now have to revise that down to like 4 k and hope it works.


these issues are the types of sparks that can set off fires. putting together sickness, with market's crashing (and the inevitable slow recovery as it takes the stairs over a few years on the way back up), paired with worker unhappiness from lack of pair or even unpaid leave, and the ever increasing pressures of automation ("we know we know"). shits getting scary fast.

i pray that anyone over 60 was already only 20-30% into stocks or less pre-fall. but given the market was regularly hitting historic highs...... i doubt it. many managers im sure told them to avoid shifting to bonds to eek out some extra security. not that they could predict C-19, but markets fall. old people need security for a reason.

Tom Hanks and the NBA are the least of our worries. im curious to see if we get populations uprising in the 2nd world, runs on health supplies in the 3rd world, and major shortages in the first world. the toilet paper industry will do good, everything else is gonna crumble.
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Mar 12 2020 08:01am
Quote (thesnipa @ Mar 12 2020 09:52am)
these issues are the types of sparks that can set off fires. putting together sickness, with market's crashing (and the inevitable slow recovery as it takes the stairs over a few years on the way back up), paired with worker unhappiness from lack of pair or even unpaid leave, and the ever increasing pressures of automation ("we know we know"). shits getting scary fast.

i pray that anyone over 60 was already only 20-30% into stocks or less pre-fall. but given the market was regularly hitting historic highs...... i doubt it. many managers im sure told them to avoid shifting to bonds to eek out some extra security. not that they could predict C-19, but markets fall. old people need security for a reason.

Tom Hanks and the NBA are the least of our worries. im curious to see if we get populations uprising in the 2nd world, runs on health supplies in the 3rd world, and major shortages in the first world. the toilet paper industry will do good, everything else is gonna crumble.


Yeah idk man. I have family members in Europe that are working half of what they were because supply disruptions and employers are asking them to stay home. Imagine relying on a 40 hour paycheck and only getting a 20 hour for an extended period of time.

What happens to the 50% of Americans here who live paycheck to paycheck and which many of them work in jobs like retail, hospitality, food industry, etc?

"I know you need to pay rent and buy groceries Bob but we'll see what happens, we'll have you back at the end of April, maybe June"
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Mar 12 2020 08:07am
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Yeah idk man. I have family members in Europe that are working half of what they were because supply disruptions and employers are asking them to stay home. Imagine relying on a 40 hour paycheck and only getting a 20 hour for an extended period of time.

What happens to the 50% of Americans here who live paycheck to paycheck and which many of them work in jobs like retail, hospitality, food industry, etc?

"I know you need to pay rent and buy groceries Bob but we'll see what happens, we'll have you back at the end of April, maybe June"


my guess is some sort of suspension on evictions with a leeway period if it extends that long in the US. either that or a pending homelessness and starvation crisis. scary shit....
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Mar 12 2020 08:08am
Look like this crap will really take its -50% in da butt.

Quote (thesnipa @ 12 Mar 2020 15:07)
my guess is some sort of suspension on evictions with a leeway period if it extends that long in the US. either that or a pending homelessness and starvation crisis. scary shit....


The interesting, even fascinating, part is many of these terrible issues are specific to US.

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Mar 12 2020 08:10am
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Mar 12 2020 08:38am
Quote (ofthevoid @ Mar 12 2020 10:01am)
Yeah idk man. I have family members in Europe that are working half of what they were because supply disruptions and employers are asking them to stay home. Imagine relying on a 40 hour paycheck and only getting a 20 hour for an extended period of time.

What happens to the 50% of Americans here who live paycheck to paycheck and which many of them work in jobs like retail, hospitality, food industry, etc?

"I know you need to pay rent and buy groceries Bob but we'll see what happens, we'll have you back at the end of April, maybe June"


I hope they go to work sick and infect even more people
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Mar 12 2020 08:40am
Quote (Jupe @ 12 Mar 2020 10:38)
I hope they go to work sick and infect even more people




luckily for you, your anime dolls do not get coronavirus
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Mar 12 2020 08:41am
Quote (Jupe @ 12 Mar 2020 15:38)
I hope they go to work sick and infect even more people


My waifu > yours
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Mar 12 2020 08:42am
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Mar 12 2020 09:08am)
Look like this crap will really take its -50% in da butt.



The interesting, even fascinating, part is many of these terrible issues are specific to US.


ya, evictions, gun violence, good rap music, and winning world wars. America is an enigma.
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Mar 12 2020 08:45am
Quote (excellence @ Mar 12 2020 10:40am)
https://i.imgur.com/leT2I3b.jpg

luckily for you, your anime dolls do not get coronavirus


Who's laughing now, Chads?

Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Mar 12 2020 10:41am)
My waifu > yours


Post pics so I can tell you she's SHIT
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Who's laughing now, Chads?



Post pics so I can tell you she's SHIT


Your waifu can't get corona, but it will be the 4th disease she's a host of.
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