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Nov 19 2020 02:40pm
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Anyone got strong opinions on hydrogen vehicles and investing in hydrogen related shit


Reminds me of the weed pump in 2018. Take Ballard Power Systems, 72M top line for 9 months ending Sept 30, 2020 up from 62M py, mkt cap over 6 billion. In 2017 their top line was 81M for 9 months and it was trading at 4-5 bucks a share vs the $23 its at now.

Is there really that much future value all of a sudden.

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invest in carvana m9
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Nov 19 2020 02:46pm
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Hydrogen just isn't a viable strategy for vehicle powering.

The advantage of hydrogen power is it's safe. Hydrogen rises when it's released due to it being lighter than air, so when it catches on fire it's far safer than a gasoline powered vehicle.

That's it.

The disadvantages are that the tank is incredibly heavy which cuts into the energy per mass efficiency, it requires actively compressing gas into a cylinder which cuts down its total energy provided, and it can only barely keep up with traditional gasoline in terms of energy per unit volume.

So overall there's very little incentive to use hydrogen powered vehicles until these factors are greatly improved.

One route of improvement is to use a solid support that captures and releases the hydrogen, thereby lowering the volume and compression need, but those are going to be exceptionally expensive and specialized materials that will require billions of dollars if not trillions in R&D to get to a level it can be used in commercial vehicles. The reason is you're basically having to hack thermodynamics, where you want somethingto bind strongly to hydrogen so it's space efficient, but you want it to be easily released so it doesn't eat the energy availability. Strong binding + easily released are contradictory, so you will have to make an exceptionally specialized material to achieve both. Not impossible, but insanely difficult.

So overall I don't see a viable future for hydrogen powered vehicles unless it's in very specific use cases.

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Anyone got strong opinions on hydrogen vehicles and investing in hydrogen related shit


Tesla crushed any hopes of hydrogen vehicles making a comeback. Mining for lithium, manufacturing of cells, etc would be good industries to invest in. Especially with Tesla's new tabless design batteries.

Hydrogen has some niche applications, consumer vehicles wont be one.

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Biofuel is more efficient imo. DME in particular
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Nov 19 2020 10:42pm
https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.theceomagazine.com/science/ageing-reversed-hyperbaric-oxygen-therapy/amp/

Anyone familiar with this and can shed more light? Wealthy people are going to be all over this if can actually buy more time.

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.theceomagazine.com/science/ageing-reversed-hyperbaric-oxygen-therapy/amp/

Anyone familiar with this and how it works? Wealthy people are going to be all over this if can actually buy more time.


It doesn't reverse aging, that's for sure. Something like that would be immediately siezed by the government simply because it would cause massive civil unrest. You tell the poors that the rich suddenly have the ability to reverse aging? You're going to see an awfully lot of dead rich people.
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Nov 19 2020 10:54pm
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It doesn't reverse aging, that's for sure. Something like that would be immediately siezed by the government simply because it would cause massive civil unrest. You tell the poors that the rich suddenly have the ability to reverse aging? You're going to see an awfully lot of dead rich people.


My understanding is it doesn’t reverse aging but it helps prolong lifespan and delay age onset diseases, if legit. All in on chamber manufacturing companies.

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.theceomagazine.com/science/ageing-reversed-hyperbaric-oxygen-therapy/amp/

Anyone familiar with this and can shed more light? Wealthy people are going to be all over this if can actually buy more time.


Telomeres aren't the only factor in aging, but it probably extends the life a few years

I personally don't understand why anyone would want to live past 75, life just diminishes after then
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Quote (obisent @ 19 Nov 2020 23:42)
https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.theceomagazine.com/science/ageing-reversed-hyperbaric-oxygen-therapy/amp/

Anyone familiar with this and can shed more light? Wealthy people are going to be all over this if can actually buy more time.

antonio brown did this to heal his foot injuries but he went crazy as well. maybe a side effect or maybe he is just crazy :lol:

the anti-aging rage makes me laugh, but maybe it’s because my genetics means i’ll look young forever (hopefully!!)
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