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Oct 11 2024 02:33pm

Money Electric: The Bitcoin Mystery (2024)
https://imdb.com/title/tt33600145/

HBO documentary that just came out, can find it easily online
They did a pretty good job with it, having a talk with amir taaki (that also went on the monero podcast monerotopia few months ago), roger ver as well for their segment regarding the block size war between the big blockers and the small blockers, pretty much made the point for peter todd being satoshi (as a shared handle with adam back)

And mostly that the bitcoin maximalists are actually monero maxis but they dont even know it yet :rofl:

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#112

Oct 13 2024 05:38pm

Code

https://reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1g2xlrl/a_call_to_action_use_haveno/

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A call to action: USE HAVENO!

https://haveno-reto.com/

The Problem:
There are currently over 300k members in this sub, and only around 25 offers for USD (maybe close to 100 offers including every currency).

What everyone in this sub and community needs to understand is that Haveno is currently one of if not the only decentralized exchanges supporting Monero. Kraken exists, and other small exchanges try to fill the void, but they will all inevitably be regulated into oblivion.

You need to stop putting your faith in centralized exchanges like Kraken or whatever your current source is. They will fall, just like every other exchange has been. We've all seen this happening of the last months, and it will only get worse.
The Solution:
THE ONLY EXCHANGES that will survive authoritarian governments' crusade against Monero are DEXs. The way Monero is going to spread is through people using DEXs. These are the future!
Simple How To:
If you haven't tried using Haveno, many people can back up its legitimacy. Simply click the link above to download Haveno Reto, open it up, and look at the offers available. If you find one you'd like to take in your currency, Haveno will guide you through the process of setting up an account for that payment method, whether you choose pay by mail, Zelle, PayPal, etc.

Good luck everyone.

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#113

Oct 13 2024 10:50pm

Code

https://rl.bloat.cat/r/Monero/comments/1g37bud/followup_just_quickly_and_successfully_traded/

Quote (/u/IcyEstablishment261)

Followup: Just quickly and successfully traded using Haveno

On a Mac, downloaded at:
https://haveno-reto.com
selected an offer, followed the instructions on screen, sent a security deposit, waited for the seller's XMR to confirm for 20 min, then sent around $100 using Venmo, he confirmed he got it, all in the span of about 30 min, and 20 of those minutes were spent waiting and doing other things.

It really is that easy. We need decentralized, uncensored, non-KYC liquidity. This is the way forward for Monero.

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#114

Oct 14 2024 12:06pm

a mobile app for haveno is also currently in development (in beta with stagenet coins for now, not real mainnet coins yet)
https://github.com/KewbitXMR/haveno-app

for desktop tho, haveno-reto been growing quite nicely and working well with real mainnet coins which haveno-reto-1.0.12 came out today:
https://github.com/retoaccess1/haveno-reto/releases
https://haveno-reto.com

so, Haveno to onramp/offramp with/to fiat (SEPA, Cash by Mail, Cash in person, Venmo, Revolut [...])
then SeraiDEX will be where the actual volume will actually be able to compete with CEXs but as a DEX for like stable coins & btc <-> xmr, currently still work in progress but getting close to release by the day: https://github.com/serai-dex/serai

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#115

Oct 14 2024 01:05pm

as for the technical aspect of monero itself (rather than the ecosystem around it), it keeps getting improved with actual massive improvements as well:

Code

https://kewbit.org/in-simple-terms-monero-fcmp-explained/

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What is Monero's new FCMP++?
For noobs!

Overview
Full-Chain Membership Proofs (FCMPs) are a proposed improvement for Monero, aiming to replace the current "ring" method used for sender privacy. Rings, while effective, have some weaknesses such as vulnerability to specific attacks, difficulties with chain reorganizations, and potential for statistical analysis of transactions. FCMPs, however, eliminate these risks by proving that a spent output could be any output on the chain, greatly increasing privacy. For example, this increases the anonymity set for every input from 16 to over 100,000,000.

Two Proposals for Full-Chain Membership Proofs (FCMPs):

1. Original Proposal (2023):
- Announced at MoneroKon 2023 and intended to work with/after Seraphis (an upgrade to Monero's transaction format).
- Involves two key elements:
  - Membership Proof: Verifies that the spent output is one of many outputs.
  - Spend Authorization: Proves the output being spent is authorized by the holder of the private key.
- Proposed a method called Grootle Proofs (effectively a ring size of 128).
2. Second Proposal (2024 - FCMP++s):
- Introduced in response to spam attacks and is independent of the Seraphis upgrade.
- Added Spend Authorization + Linkability to improve Monero without requiring a switch to Seraphis.
- Features of this proposal include:
  - Transaction Chaining: Allows a transaction to reference another transaction that hasn't yet been mined, enabling layer-two solutions like payment channels.
  - Outgoing View Keys: Improves wallet privacy by allowing outgoing transactions to be tracked in a more secure and efficient manner.
  - Forward Secrecy: Protects against future quantum computing attacks.

Comparison to Seraphis

Seraphis introduces all of the features mentioned above but requires a complete migration to a new address format (which would invalidate all old addresses).
FCMP++s aims to offer these features faster and without the need for a complete migration.
The actual protocol might launch without all features fully available, with wallets gradually implementing them later.

Technical Details

FCMP++s are built on Curve Trees and elliptic curve divisors. These concepts aim to make the proof system more efficient and secure.
The overall design has been mostly specified and is currently undergoing review.

Funding and Contributions

The development of FCMP++s has been funded, and additional funds are being raised for academic review and auditing.
Those interested in contributing are encouraged to reach out through the Monero Research Lab on IRC or Matrix.

Final Thoughts
FCMP++s are a significant step forward for Monero's privacy and transaction efficiency. While it won't immediately offer all the new features, it lays the groundwork for improving privacy, transaction security, and the wallet user experience over time, without requiring major migrations or breaking changes to the Monero ecosystem.

This post was edited by moonbeam420 on Oct 14 2024 01:06pm

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#116

Oct 14 2024 03:20pm

#Monero "Everyone is Walking Around With a Swiss Bank Account in Their Pocket" Barack Obama

#117

Oct 16 2024 02:56pm

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#118

Oct 16 2024 03:52pm

Code

https://reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1g507rl/you_can_bet_on_the_us_presidential_election_with/

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Oct 16 2024 05:56pm

Quote (moonbeam420 @ Oct 16 2024 09:52pm)

Code

https://reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1g507rl/you_can_bet_on_the_us_presidential_election_with/

I guess the post before was cuz posted in the betting section for 420fg but then got refunded cuz dude retracted then thought an other poster was taking the bet so sent the fg but then i got refunded as well the 420fg cuz dude that posted in the thread wasnt actually taking the bet...

so posted the monero vegas website that they just added bets for US elections and i guess on jsp they just dont like links in the betting section so mod removed the post in here as well

we gud in here tho (probably lol)
so... yea literally easiest website to use (monero vegas)
no registration, no account, no nothing needed but the moneros itself to place bets
literally opened the page, clicked on "trump" to place the bet, it asked me to paste in a monero address (long string of chars that starts with "4" and "8") to receive the winnings then standard monero payment processing page saying the amount and monero address to send to so did that in wallet and done
literally no bs registration headaches and being called a " multi" or some shit cuz it dont even need an account anyways

here's the receipt, that they indeed received the 0.8 XMR that I sent:
https://monero.vegas/lookup/8A7DyfpwStu8K3yDRHUzhKUHyrAoPMnBV9Sj6URDxc7udE57QjPh9MxiuEzDFRnPJJVgWpmBdqeKzcHiegGG4qUQ7oFwugr

I'll update next month if orange dude in fact win if I receive the payout or not

verifying a website legitimacy with my own funds like I did throughout this post to actually being able to vouch for the services that been posted

for monero vegas it been around, they just made a thread on the monero subreddit for the addition of bets for US elections but they been around, no need to delete a whole post due to a link not being verified, I just verified the link and will update next month

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#120

Oct 17 2024 09:58pm

Code

https://reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1g42umh/haveno_is_live_on_mainnet_how_to_install/

Quote (/u/monerobull)

Haveno is Live on Mainnet: How to Install

What is Haveno?

Haveno is a decentralized exchange (DEX) for trading Monero (XMR) p2p. It offers a user-friendly, private, and secure way to trade without relying on centralized exchanges. Think of Haveno as a p2p Localmonero alternative.

Download Haveno

Visit https://haveno-reto.com and download the version for your operating system (Windows, macOS, or Linux).
Some antivirus programs might flag Haveno due to the embedded Monero codebase. This is a false positive and happens because Monero code includes mining functionality. If you are concerned, review the source code on the Haveno-reto GitHub: https://github.com/retoaccess1/haveno-reto
If the software is blocked, you can add it as an exception or temporarily disable your antivirus during installation.

Video Tutorial

Quote (/u/monerobull)

What is Haveno-Reto? Understanding the Network

You might be wondering, what’s the difference between Haveno and Haveno-Reto? Here’s a simple analogy:

Haveno is the software.
Haveno-Reto is a live p2p network you connect to for real trades on the mainnet (third-party, not by the Haveno devs).

Think of it like Minecraft:
Minecraft is the software, while Hypixel is a server you connect to for multiplayer games.
Similarly, Haveno is the software, and Haveno-Reto is the network where real trading happens.

Avoid Testnet Confusion

If you download the unconfigured client from the main Haveno-Dex GitHub repository (https://github.com/haveno-dex/haveno), you’ll only connect to the Monero testnet. This means you won't be able to make real trades. To trade on the mainnet, make sure you're using the pre-configured Haveno-Reto client: https://haveno-reto.com

Haveno is live on mainnet and you can use it today but many people are still struggling to install it, mainly due to a lack of easily accessible information. This guide is supposed to address this.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask them in this thread!

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