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Sep 21 2025 04:05pm
After years of trading with spreads and complex multi-leg option strategies... My most consistent and effective approach is selling naked puts on strong, fundamentally healthy companies. If the trade moves against me, I don’t view it as a loss — I’m comfortable being assigned and holding quality shares at a discount.


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Sep 21 2025 04:19pm
A lot of principles I understand to some degree. You've answered a good bit as to where I could better seek direction in applying what I know, and a few bullet points that help expand on what I know until the point I'm confident enough to apply that. Not enough of my environment has wanted to cohesively exchange success for purpose of building others in exchange for building themselves and within that lies the answer to capitalism, so thanks.


No problem I have other info however I dont wanna overload you with information. So reach out if you have a question.

The less you know the better its about finding edge, following rules, and focusing on a repeatable process.'

Book recommendation Atomic Habits

I forgot to mention you should learn risk management. Develop good habits on managing risk. Ive literally turned 3 figures into 5 in a week (not degening and full porting)

This post was edited by PurpleStuff on Sep 21 2025 04:23pm
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Sep 22 2025 06:39am
Old school runescape trading was a case study on the impact of liquidity and the need for market makers. Smaller world, less liquidity, bigger spread. Larger world, greater liquidity, smaller spread.

Professional market makers provide that today. You're not going to compete with them without equivalent expertise and resources, which you don't have.

There are a handful of advantages which the private investor holds over his professional counterpart.
1) He has lower overhead and lower fees.
2) He has no need to deviate from an optimal strategy in order to assuage short term investor concerns.
3) The amount he is investing is far, far less. Large funds will struggle to beat the market long-term because as they get bigger they start to represent the market. Buffett handled this well, and continued to beat the market on a smaller scale (compared to his early days). Cathie Woods handled this poorly, and ARKK's core investments were incredible illiquid as ARKK's stake was large enough to significantly influence the price.
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Sep 22 2025 10:25am
Old school runescape trading was a case study on the impact of liquidity and the need for market makers. Smaller world, less liquidity, bigger spread. Larger world, greater liquidity, smaller spread.

Professional market makers provide that today. You're not going to compete with them without equivalent expertise and resources, which you don't have.

There are a handful of advantages which the private investor holds over his professional counterpart.
1) He has lower overhead and lower fees.
2) He has no need to deviate from an optimal strategy in order to assuage short term investor concerns.
3) The amount he is investing is far, far less. Large funds will struggle to beat the market long-term because as they get bigger they start to represent the market. Buffett handled this well, and continued to beat the market on a smaller scale (compared to his early days). Cathie Woods handled this poorly, and ARKK's core investments were incredible illiquid as ARKK's stake was large enough to significantly influence the price.


Beating "the market" isn't even the goal a lot of the time, trying not to be correlated to the indexes and managing risk is what a lot of wealth management is about.

Market makers play for volume and velocity. They make thousands of trades daily, extracting tiny edges from bid-ask spreads. They have algorithms, co-location, and teams of quants.. you can't win that game.

Your points about the private investor's advantages are spot on, especially #2 and #3. Retail investors can be patient and opportunistic in ways institutions can't. They can hold concentrated positions in small-cap or illiquid names without moving markets (your ARKK example). They can sit on cash or stocks for years waiting for the right opportunity, without pressure to deploy capital or show quarterly returns.

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Sep 24 2025 12:11pm
Hi guys. Posting here seeking some direction as I believe there are like-minded individuals or if nothing else, people with experience that were at some point where I am now.

In short, for many years I've excelled pretty well with establishing wealth in various MMORPGS largely through trading. Person to person, auction houses, "grand exchange" and similar. More than ever I want to take those skills in to real world markets with the belief I'd achieve returns that were at minimal a supplemental income. Questions I have that have held me back so far are things like what type of asset would be most comparable? What exchange(s) allow for the smallest trades where what profit is made is entirely consumed by the commissions? In the grand scheme of things, I actually enjoy the trading, the monitoring and things of the nature and not simply another individual hoping for a "get rich fast" unicorn approach but instead, looking for an avenue with minimal start-up cost in which I could turn a regular profit off of a higher volume or frequency of trades. Am I unrealistic in whats actually available, or am I correct in assuming what I hope to achieve is possible? Any input and direction would be greatly appreciated; the deeper and more direct, the better.

If nothing else, thanks for having taken the time to read.


I know how you feel, i have always enjoyed accumulating currency in games and even on here... as you can probably tell.

I'm still new to stock trading have like 6 months experience, but i am finding it fun and very profitable. If you can learn about buying/selling calls and selling puts you can generate income every week on your stocks. For example I have bought a risky stock in the past few weeks which is $4000 in profit, but i have also made $1200 selling covered calls which has obviously reduced my risk by a decent amount. Hopefully it will continue to steadily increase and if i keep selling covered calls, in time i'll reduce my risk to essentially 0 as i will have received my initial capital through the covered call premiums.

I do almost all my research watching youtube guides while playing games. Its amazing how much you retain and learn while just having guides on in the background.

The only problem is the stock market is at an all time high and everybody is an expert in a "bull" market.







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Oct 9 2025 10:10pm
Same here.ive found that penny stocks are really good and cheap to start out making ~20$+ a day. It's obviously more risky but if you follow trends and do your research there are some killer stocks right now making people crazy money. I've probably lost out on 5k$ this week because i kept taking my 20-40$ profits and watched the stocks soar past my selling point and im only trading with 5-600$ right now. Only invest what youre willing to lose in penny stocks. Dont let greed get in the way and you can be on your way to making supplemental cash. Also don't get fomo and never go back to a stock after selling because it looks tempting. Small accounts also aren't allowed to day trade more than 5x a week as far as I know so you will be limited on that anyways.

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