Here I want to identify a frequent problem at JSP with few examples.
Since newcomers and infrequent users might not be familiar with item prices - more likely ranges, there is a typical scam-type attitude we all observe especially for the last 2 season.
First i will give the last two example of the same item and describe with citations.
Example 1 :Topic : https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=83553118&f=169&p=560509569#p560509569Item : Ap 15 Ed 3 sox
A newcomer, platemate opened that topic to sell his item with his own sale price; which was 400 fgs.
Please check the 2nd comment.
Quote (Asskicker55 @ Jul 2 2020 02:54am)
400?😅
Asskicker55 is a known Jsp user at East. I will not tell what was aim on posting that comment. He needs profit, he needs the market crashed.
(Some people are also opening funny topics; more likely - Jah Bin 50 fgs - and their friends, brothers, or theirselves (alt+tab) binning at the same moment. However there is no sale. Just fake topics to crash market and influence the rest to follow that trend; mostly impacts %10 price reduction in a short term. Means %10 profit for them. How they're making that profit? That's another topic. I assume everybody knows.
Quote (platemate @ Jul 2 2020 02:55am)
sold for 400g yesterday
Platemate is right, few more sold at 400-600 fgs price range in 24 hours.
Quote (moosicdetoreador @ Jul 2 2020 06:18pm)
200 fgs to keep it rolling. my fav armor.
btw, don't forget;
his item, his price.
if you have cheaper, feel free to sell for cheap. why you're fighting here?
to buy his item. if he's selling at an expensive price, buy from someone who is selling cheap?
not exist? that makes this item expensive.
by the way welcome to jsp.
Here i reminded one critical issue.
His item = His price. And that item is already the most desired armor type and very rare at the moment.
Quote (mike_litoris @ Jul 2 2020 06:18pm)
bin
Quote (platemate @ Jul 2 2020 06:25pm)
Sold t4t!
Happy ending. Sold at the value seller desired. Thanks to mike_litoris binned before few more lowballs arrive there.
Asskicker55 and some other may feel sad about that.
Example 2 : Topic : https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=83566543&f=169&p=560502586#p560502586Item : Archon Plate 15/15 - 3 sox
^kerser11 - probably hates me because of a Faith GMB issue (he lowballed me a bit

) previous season opened that topic to sell his total perfect base.
A bunch of lowball offers (100ish ^^ ) made me start that item at a good value that this item deserves;
Quote (moosicdetoreador @ Jul 3 2020 09:09am)
300 to start. glws.
Quote (Kaneki @ Jul 3 2020 09:11am)
I hope you take this offer lol
Quote (Evabizzy @ Jul 3 2020 09:12am)
It is a solid offer around its value
Quote (moosicdetoreador @ Jul 3 2020 09:13am)
15/0 sold vs 400 and 450 few hours ago.
300 would be cheap imho.
Mentioned there and pm'ed kerser11 with the price range that armor deserves.
And he asked me if i can buy the item.
There are numerous examples; happening almost everyday, especially happening at rare items (once i'm asked to buy a 1k+ value ring for 350 fgs because i started over lowballs - told the value of the ring would be / luckily he believed and changed his mind to give it another try with setting bin at 700ish fgs / sold for 750 fgs / ^Cercei bought that beautiful ring)
That seller was also tired of lowballs, and once i throw %50 of the value as starting number (trimming lowballs) - that happened.
Hereby, i offer that as a free service, with the final citation from the mentioned topics.
Quote (moosicdetoreador @ Jul 3 2020 12:11pm)
My pleasure. There is a habit to trick and get items for "cheap" that we call lowballs. They also mostly focus on newcomers (sadly) since they're not familiar with JSP currency (fgs) and trades here. So please if you're not sure about the prices, do not hesitate to open p/c topics. Welcome to pm me anytime too.
If i know, i share. If i do not know, we learn and figure out together.^kerser11 also sold me his 15/15 Archon Plate 2 hours ago, explained him the same when he was tired of lowballs; told him not to sell me at that cheap price just because "my offer is leading offer". My offer was "starting offer". Even it was not my need at the moment (weekend i might be off) - still bought.
That's the core of trade, even in real life too (I'm trading between some countries - happening almost same things in commodity trades)
There will be 100 people lowballs you. Just 1 person comes and pays the real value = is the reality of JSP for last 2 ladders.
So be patient. Ignore lowballs. Enjoy JSP and enjoy the game.Thanks.
Kerser11's topic here for reference, told him twice there + with messages :https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=83566543&f=169&p=560502586#p560502586 P.S. Thanks to the people, those are always blaming me for "gauging" prices, etc.We all understand why they feel sad and to be sincere, just pity.
Please do not forget, it's just a game and enjoy it.
Thanks.
This post was edited by moosicdetoreador on Jul 2 2020 11:46pm