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May 11 2015 12:08pm
Quote (Arelax @ May 11 2015 11:59am)
No
any good zvz build is gonna need str on the ring
this ring adds more life and has 9 rep

If using a rare circ on a zva that doesn't need str on ring then yea it would be better


Str and dex are swappable on a ring. A stat saver is a stat saver lol regardless of where it comes from

So I guess the debate is 15lr more beneficial than 4 stats

This post was edited by Nede on May 11 2015 12:12pm
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May 11 2015 12:12pm
Quote (Arelax @ May 11 2015 01:53pm)
Even if the mana is useless blood gyre has 7 less life for 20 light res

That would be a decent debate. Essentially 7 life vs 6max/40ar

overall I think 76 mana/7 life is better than 20 light res.

Plus not all zons need the extra light res so it might not equate to any kind of bonus


My #1 zvz ring vs blood gyre would be
10 life/82 mana. Vs 6 light res/10@

I think mine is still clear #1 - 111ar/20str/38life/9 rep/82 mana /29 light res


Quote (Arelax @ May 11 2015 01:59pm)
No
any good zvz build is gonna need str on the ring
this ring adds more life and has 9 rep

If using a rare circ on a zva that doesn't need str on ring then yea it would be better


This man knows what he's talking about ^^

I'd still debate you over the mana thing though :P not to mention most of the time you don't really need all of the str on a ring so that 20str might be overkill, depending on your other gear ofc :O
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May 11 2015 12:13pm
Most builds can't use str on rings since they need to be swapped.

I own the top two zvz rings, in my profile.

mana, not useful, 15 light res, very low.
Your other stuff is nice though but I have to disagree about this ring.
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May 11 2015 12:15pm
Quote (Nede @ May 11 2015 01:08pm)
Str and dex are swappable on a ring. A stat saver is a stat saver lol regardless of where it comes from

So I guess the debate is 15lr more beneficial than 4 stats


If the stats are swappable then it's 4stats/7 life/1 life rep vs 15 light res

19 life/1 life rep. Vs 15 light res.

I'd go with the 19life/1 life rep
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May 11 2015 12:16pm
Quote (aceofspades5 @ May 11 2015 01:12pm)
This man knows what he's talking about ^^

I'd still debate you over the mana thing though :P not to mention most of the time you don't really need all of the str on a ring so that 20str might be overkill, depending on your other gear ofc :O


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May 11 2015 12:17pm
Quote (laztheripper @ May 11 2015 12:13pm)
Most builds can't use str on rings since they need to be swapped.

I own the top two zvz rings, in my profile.

mana, not useful, 15 light res, very low.
Your other stuff is nice though but I have to disagree about this ring.


I knew it wouldn't take long for you to come out from the shadows. But I would have to go with Laz's rings as my preference for Z v Z. Again it's only my preference.

Regardless Arelax, ur ring should still get all the credit it deserves, so best of luck to you selling it boss :)
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May 11 2015 12:18pm
Quote (laztheripper @ May 11 2015 01:13pm)
Most builds can't use str on rings since they need to be swapped.

I own the top two zvz rings, in my profile.

mana, not useful, 15 light res, very low.
Your other stuff is nice though but I have to disagree about this ring.


This is for ZvZ. Most ppl in ZvZ dont swap out rings so you can build around the strength. Mana is useful if you multi alot. I've duel ed alot of ppl that have ran out of mana, but alot of ppl do hold that opinion that it's useless

As for the rings in your profile, 9 life rep is a must So as godly as they are, they can't be considered

This post was edited by Arelax on May 11 2015 12:20pm
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May 11 2015 12:19pm
Quote (HeartOfThorns @ May 11 2015 02:17pm)
I knew it wouldn't take long for you to come out from the shadows. But I would have to go with Laz's rings as my preference for Z v Z. Again it's only my preference.

Regardless Arelax, ur ring should still get all the credit it deserves, so best of luck to you selling it boss :)


Lurking in the shadows, I like that :)

Quote (Arelax @ May 11 2015 02:18pm)
This is for ZvZ. Most ppl in ZvZ dont swap out rings so you can build around the strength. Mana is useful if you multi alot. I've duel ed alot of ppl that have ran out of mana, but alot of ppl do hold that opinion that it's useless


you have a belt full of mana pots. use them.
And if you are doing gm zvz you won't be allowed to spam multi anyway so why the AR and mana?
Guided always hits regardless of AR.
In short you've got 3 mods on that ring that are near useless, not to mention the low light res.

In the end it depends on build and preference I guess.
GL selling.

This post was edited by laztheripper on May 11 2015 12:26pm
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May 11 2015 12:21pm
Quote (HeartOfThorns @ May 11 2015 01:17pm)
I knew it wouldn't take long for you to come out from the shadows. But I would have to go with Laz's rings as my preference for Z v Z. Again it's only my preference.

Regardless Arelax, ur ring should still get all the credit it deserves, so best of luck to you selling it boss :)


Always lurking. Considering coming back. This isn't my zvz ring, this is the spare I have ft. :P
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May 11 2015 12:41pm
Quote (laztheripper @ May 11 2015 01:19pm)
Lurking in the shadows, I like that :)



you have a belt full of mana pots. use them.
And if you are doing gm zvz you won't be allowed to spam multi anyway so why the AR and mana?
Guided always hits regardless of AR.
In short you've got 3 mods on that ring that are near useless, not to mention the low light res.

In the end it depends on build and preference I guess.
GL selling.


even with a belt full of pots ppl run out of mana. You can run out without spamming multi
even if it is a wasted mod I haven't seen better rings.

9min adds about 5 average dmg per hit when it's all said and done

Your best ring vs this one
9 min/18 life/8 light res. Vs. 119ar/9 life rep/76 mana

Imo 9 life rep outweighs all of that
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