Hey everyone, I'm kinda new in here and I had always great trades experiences except for one and I wanna make sure before posting in scammer accusation that the situation is eligible for being considered cheat/scam.

I've been looking for a CTA 5 days ago on d2r ps section, almost always asking the sellers and specifying them that if the item was made in a superior base, I didn't want to buy it. Then I found this "cheap CTA 422" post of a 2005 user with high post count, no mention anywhere of it being superior (I can't retrieve the msg rn, they are in tracked section but i deleted them days ago from other sections, can't open them from tracker but the post is still public) but i'm pretty sure I asked also to this guy if it was superior in pm.

Anyway, I trusted him and got the weapon, only to find out yesterday it had the enhanced durability mod on it.. (ye, crystal sword superior with en. durab which was very hard to read between all those affix, while i only searched for enhanced dmg to check if it was superior.. why would u make cta in a sup en durability crystal sword i really don't know) and so I immediately wrote to the guy, asking him politely a refund, then at his refusal i told him that as for forum rules selling an item which does not fit the description in the post is considered as a cheat and not giving a refund bad trading ethics, so I told him please to refund me and I'd have given him the item back and the question would have been closed there (and he would have not lost a good customer for the future). Both of us got enough fg not to care about the price itself, really it is for principle. I avoided MANYcta because they were superior, I don't want this one and heNEVERmentioned it was superior, if i could retrieve the messages perhaps he even told me it wasn't but i'm not 100% sure cause I had the habit to ask if it wasn't specified if it was sup or not and say "as long as it's not superior..", I told him we both got quite some fg and you are an old user with 4x the amount of fg i got, so I hope you'll be serious and understand the situation and fix it by refunding me cause the post description was incorrect.

But he then goes on like saying "i gave it to you in the trade window, now the price of runes is lower you can't come one week later to ask a refund" (while it is actually 4-5 days) and then I explain him that it doesn't matter as the forum rules are the rules, his post is selling a different item from what he sold me, so I want a refund. Then I tell him that I'd really wanna avoid to make a scammer accusation ticket against his old 2005 account for such a little trade, but he leaves me no choice cause what is fair, is fair. He then went on with "go ahead, you'll only get laughed on" and blabla...

If you get cheated or scammed and report it 5 days later, it's not like the illecit behavior gets a discount. If you commit a crime today and you get caught in 1 month you will still pay for what you did.

The fact that rune prices went lower in these days is not my problem (unlike buying an item who doesn't correspod to its description) and it's not like this item got 0 value now and for a user with that much fg refusing to give a refund when he posted a wrong item description is really not honorable at all imo, I'm sad for him honestly cause it is an old account but he leaves me no choice.

Although it took few days for me to notice and ye, mea culpa for that, this doesn't change the fact that the item posted wasn't the one I got, and thus I want my fg refunded from this guy or to get him tagged as cheater or scammer cause that is what I would call someone tricking a customer into buying something that the customer wouldn't buy without the FULLdescription.

I really don't wanna cause trouble to anyone and I would be ok at the end of the day even if i'd charsi this weapon, I can make or get more, but what is fair is fair and the attitude of this guy makes me wanna go to the bottom of this issue, I might not get in the end my refund but at least this forum should know that the guy hasn't got any ethic whatsoever regarding customers and trades, even when it is a little amount of fg involved and there is an actual primary mistake on his end too, not only my delay with noticing.

To conclude, yes i should have realized earlier about the incorrect item property, but it's not like one month has passed and the ladder is gone, only 4-5 days. Otherwise everyone of us could start selling items with wrong descriptions and if the customer realizes later you just tell him "eh sorry you can't realize now, rune prices went down 20% thx for your fg bb gg", i would think we as a community want to avoid enforcing and defending these kind of behaviors.. also cause it's not like i am requesting it with the malicious intent of "borrowing something good for a while to then refund" (for a 422 cta?! lol), i NEVER requested a refund, ever. But this time I do cause the situation imo clearly allows for it.

Cheers and have a nice day everyone! =)

edit typo

This post was edited by AyahFX on Nov 25 2022 07:34am

Post it in the scammer acccusation you'll get a better answer there then here.

ook thanks for the suggestion, will edit n close here

edit: perhaps not as time to edit ran out I guess =D

This post was edited by AyahFX on Nov 25 2022 08:05am

No worries. The Sa team will be able to assist you. Good luck!

Enh dura on a CTA doesn't matter one bit. You aren't hitting with it so it wont lower the durability.
The only effect it would have is an added repair cost which won't happen.

This is just an invalid complaint or you're trying to loophole your way back out of it.

Nobody needs to mention if a CTA is superior when selling unless a buyer actually specifically asks for it.

You got 4-5 days use out of a CTA and now want the full amount back? Nah bro.

This post was edited by Vilify on Nov 25 2022 10:29am

tbh it needs to be mentioned when the repair cost is that high and I even got in my profile written "i gamble a lot in game" so imagine me willing to spent hundreds K gold repairing a worthless cta... if i knew, I would have NOT bought it and made my own one, u know? 4-5 days use of a cta? i already said i didn't play the whole time cause of irl i noticed later... what do you think i play 24/7 with that cta? btw i posted in Scammer accusation, thx for your opinion but the SA team will handle it now

Let me ask you something.

How could your CTA possibly use dura unless you're physically swinging it?

Literal waste of time for the s/a mods lol.

This post was edited by Vilify on Nov 25 2022 10:39am

for example if you swap mid battle and get hit or die, it does lose durability. Even if this wasn't the case, as there are people buying anti perfect or perfect items, i wanted a non superior cta, simple.

Why can my sorc holding an eth oculus never have it lose durability even after months of being hit/dying while teleporting?

This post was edited by Vilify on Nov 25 2022 10:45am

You agreed to a price and got to check the item before accepting.
You didn't get scammed, you made a purchase you regret. Assume your mistake and move on IMO.