Hello everyone,

So I am inquiring on Diablo 2 classic. So I am wondering if anyone in here can shed some light on how to find "good quality" rare items on d2/d2r. I have been playing for a while and played back 10 years ago and never had a full understanding of how it works. A few days ago, a guy came in my game with super godly items (195ed naga, 198ed lance, fce ring with str/dex and dual res, and a +2 188ed mart). Like these are items i have always wanted to find. So is it truly just luck, is it because he has MAX mf possible on a popper barb while popping trav, zero mf and just csing, gambling, imbuing, .... just want to know how to find good quality rares like that. Thanks for the help in advance guys!

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This post was edited by ChocolateCoveredGummyBears on Jul 7 2024 09:51pm

those RARE Items are really hard to come by, YOU can spent countless hours MFing (even with 8Man Games) and you will NEVER find those items at all, It's sort of like winning the Lottery.

This post was edited by DePoRtEd on Jul 7 2024 10:08pm

high ed weapons and +2 ammys can only drop from diablo. you NEED to quest bug diablo. you want 0 mf. you dont want uniques.
ofc they can be gambled, imbued or rolled with pskulls as well.

This post was edited by Cheetos on Jul 7 2024 10:09pm

If someone is showing you tons of godlies then they likely just bought most, if not all, and have been collecting them for years. As mentioned above, it's mostly just luck and it's extremely rare to actually find something godly. I've almost exclusively played classic since joining jsp, have gotten to level 94 legitly multiple times on classic legacy and classic d2r, and have found very few items that I'd call godly. I'd say CS is usually the place to find items legitly especially since it's really the only viable place to level and every item roll is possible there.

There's no big secret to finding items in classic. Only thing I can really think of as a "secret" is forcing quest drops for bosses as Cheetos mentioned with Diablo. This is done by killing them with a character that doesn't have the quest. For example, killing diablo with a lord/lady in a game that a baron made so you can't complete the quest on your lord/lady. That allows you to get the most amount of rares from them without needing any MF. Having more players in the game also yields more drops. Quest drops can also be done with Meph and, in D2R, Andy always drops quest drops so it isn't needed.

Just keep in mind classic monster levels and what levels are needed for the desirable affixes to be sure you're actually killing somewhere where a godly item can drop.

Levels for the common mfing monsters in hell are:
Diablo = 90
CS monsters = 80 (uniques are +3, champs +2)
Travincal council members = 78
Meph = 76 (yes, meph is lower than travincal)
Andy = 62

So, just taking the main mf areas into account then you can only find certain items from the minimum monster level below:

Hell Diablo only:
+2 skill amulets (ilvl 90)
31+ life grim helms (ilvl 84)

CS champs:
+2 din grim shields (ilvl 82)

CS:
16+ str war belts (ilvl 79)

Travincal:
181+ ED Marts/BH/Lance/Execs (ilvl 78) specifically the King's affix since it requires that prefix + another for 200 ed.
16+ str sharkskins (ilvl 77)
10+ str ornates (ilvl 77)

Mephisto:
16+ str demonhides (ilvl 76)
166-180 ED Marts/BH/Lance/Execs (ilvl 73)
100 ed ornates (ilvl 68)
31+ life rings (ilvl 68)
100 ed mage plates (ilvl 66)

As far as gambling goes, I feel it's really only worth it to gamble rings/amulets since you can't gamble exceptional bases. You can gamble items from -5 to +4 your character level. So, at Level 95 you can find items ilvl 90-99 which would make it so every single amulet you gamble has a chance to be +2, but you have a chance to get +2s from level 86. In D2R, you could also target gamble certain items like boots at lower levels since gamble prices are lower and certain undesirable affixes can't spawn on lower ilvls making the important ones more likely. For boots it would be level 43 for 30/10 40 tri res and up to 5 dex or level 52 to max out the dex to 9, but the gamble cost goes up around 30-40% iirc.

Imbues' affixes are based on your character level + 4 and are just as likely to be good as any other rare as long as they're the same ilvl, so not really a viable strategy to farm godlies.

Wow thank you so much for the info. Yea i figured he was lying because it seemed way too good to be true. Couple of questions if you dont mind....

1. Do you take donations lol? (You didnt have to give me all of that and you did)
2. Curious, how do you know that about the levels and stuff? (i.e. trav is 78)
3. As far as an item requiring an additonal prefix, how do you make that happen? Are you just saying the chances are even slimmer for an item like that?
4. Is it better to mf at the actual levels you have listed for example +2 din grims (lvl 82)? So swould my lvl 82 char have the same chance as a level 90?
5. I think i understand what you are saying about gambling but does the difficulty matter? And how do you know gambling is -5 to +4?

Again, thank you so much. I really appreciate it.

1. Happy to help
2. I've played classic and d2 far too much... There's a few topics on jsp that list the monster levels for classic but the ones i've found have errors. There used to be more classic resouces, but most are long gone now. This one is mostly correct: https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=17219980 with the exception of CS being level 80 so fec/seis/viz are 83. And there are other details missing like urdars in river being level 82 meaning they can be 84/85 if they're champs/unique.
3. It's luck. The game randomly rolls prefixes and suffixes possible on an item. The only way to very slightly increase your chances is to mf at the monster level required for the affix if there are others that are possible at higher levels. For example, if you want 200 ed on exceptional 2h weapons then the odds get very slightly worse from monster level 82+ since at 82 the Priest's (+2 paladin) prefix is also possible on those diluting the possible prefixes, but honestly i wouldn't worry all that much about that. When you're imbuing you could take that into account and, for example, imbue marts on a level 74 character to have the highest probability, but it's still very unlikely to happen.
4. Your character level doesn't matter. Monster level is what determines the drops. If you can kill Diablo at level 1 then you have just as good of a chance of getting anything vs a level 99. So for example to find +2 grims you just have to kill a monster that is level 82+.
5. Difficulty doesn't matter nor does who you gamble from. All that matters is your character level. I know it's -5 to +4 from different game guides i've read over the years including the official blizzard resource: https://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/ and it also focuses more on xpac info, but the base information applies to classic. Everything on item drops and affixes is explained there.

In summary, there isn't really all that much you can do to greatly improve the probability of finding good items, so it's just luck and the best place to mf is killing quest bugged hell diablo with 0 mf imo. If you play solo then you could argue that maybe trav or meph would be better to find items since you can do many more runs/hr vs soloing hell diablo, but as mentioned in my previous post only cs+diablo can drop everything in the game.

This post was edited by Arturo on Jul 9 2024 08:41pm