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Rules are clear. 400x150 and 3 lines of text if you have a image
6 lines if you don't have a image

As Morot said above PM him or any other m++ if you got futher questions

This post was edited by Marw on Dec 29 2013 01:08pm

I believe thats what I was refering to using JCT's signature as a reference.

However your right. Things of this nature can be handled by the Members ++ moderator team.

This post was edited by Instrument on Dec 29 2013 01:15pm

It says: The entire size of your signature shall not exceed 400 pixels wide by 150 pixels high.
The last part, pixels high, makes it more clear to understand. This, ofcourse, means that your signatures picture cannot exceed these limits.You can't,for example, have 350x200, or 450x100. This is for images only, I'll explain how the lines works aswell since it seems to be a bit unclear.

Text sections of your signature shall not exceed 6 lines of text if you include no images, and 3 lines of text if you have an image.
This means that if you have an image in your signature (400x150 pixels or smaller and max file size of 70kb) you may only have 3 lines of text. 6 lines if for those who have no image. Remember that empty lines counts as a lines too. But if a line is longer than your 400x150 signature it's no problem.

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THIS IS OK!

I hope this cleared up a few things!

you wrote "400x150 and 3 lines of text" - this is nowhere in the rules. that is why the first rule says "entire size" and it is separated from the second rule which talks about the lines of text with or without an image. it is written AFTER the first rule, after it is already clear that the entire size must not exceed 400x150. nothing about images is said in the first rule.
you are correct that the rules are clear, but just not to everyone

his signature is fine,
please take some time to review the rules again
located here - http://forums.d2jsp.org/info.php?p=9 before posting, thank you!

It's just badly worded. We all understand where you are coming from, but you are allowed to have text if your image is 400x150.

Make a suggestion about clearing up the badly worded text if it bothers you that much.

It should be worded.

The image section of your signature shall not exceed 400x150 pixels with at most 3 additional lines of text.

my point. entire signature size refers to everything in the signature, and not "image" - "signature size" has no connection whatsoever to "image in your signature"

i'm only defending the rules, there is nothing personal about this since as you see my signature totals up to about 260x60
and yes, it is possible to calculate text pixel size, the easiest method being taking a screenshot, pasting it in mspaint, cutting the signature size, pasting it to a mspaint canvas with a smaller size (it extends to the pasted image's size), checking the total dimensions by either image properties (ctrl+E) or saving it to a file and opening up the file properties to see the dimensions

i think that the rules are clear though and they state what they were intended to be, and this should not be a subject to discussion and to opposition by moderators and members++

the simplest solution would be an image scaling script which would calculate the entire signature area size and would shrink the image/animated gif to something that would total the entire signature to 400x150 but i think we must clear up the misunderstanding of the rules first

If you have any concerns about rule interpretations, please PM a member of the staff