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Oct 12 2023 07:57am
Quote (Peppapig @ 12 Oct 2023 15:42)
What is the point of the pictures though?
Why are admins ask to perform a task that wastes their time and not useful for the case,

If someone did take something, you think they are gonna show you the SHAKO IN STASH?


“Yea, look at this GREEN SHAKOin my stash”
And show the admin he is a scammer?

Can we have some common sense?


that's why I wrote to you that the process consists of several points and sharing screenshots by the accuser is one of them when collecting evidence. The accused has the right to comment on the topic at any time, which is why he is always tagged there. What don't you understand here?
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Oct 12 2023 08:00am
Quote (michalk @ Oct 12 2023 03:56pm)
Yeah but the point of this topic is that it doesnt make sense
- have the stolen item in stash tab 2
- make a screenshot of tab 1
- move the item to tab 1
- make screenshot of tabs 2,3 and 4
- prove this system is worthless


The main reason why the current system works is because the number of one-off scammers is very small. Probably 95% percent of SAs that I've seen are coming from repeated offenders. The remaining 5% tend to remain unresolved, unless there is overwhelming evidence, usually in the form of a video. I think only video recording can be anywhere near conclusive evidence.

Edit: my % split doesn't include loan scams. These follow a different, easier procedure.

This post was edited by Ashirgo on Oct 12 2023 08:04am
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Oct 12 2023 08:51am
Yea I agree with you on this one which is why I just always record every transaction with obs: name, trade, seller agree, bnet, trade screen t4t... so I never have to worry about it. Good ol 12 year old seagate barracuda 5400rpm.
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Oct 12 2023 08:54am
Quote (Ashirgo @ Oct 12 2023 10:00am)
The main reason why the current system works is because the number of one-off scammers is very small. Probably 95% percent of SAs that I've seen are coming from repeated offenders. The remaining 5% tend to remain unresolved, unless there is overwhelming evidence, usually in the form of a video. I think only video recording can be anywhere near conclusive evidence.

Edit: my % split doesn't include loan scams. These follow a different, easier procedure.


Quote (Sqnman007 @ Oct 12 2023 09:57am)
that's why I wrote to you that the process consists of several points and sharing screenshots by the accuser is one of them when collecting evidence. The accused has the right to comment on the topic at any time, which is why he is always tagged there. What don't you understand here?


So we can just remove the screenshot process,
Cuz it doesnt do anything for the case
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Oct 12 2023 09:22am
you can literally just drop the shit on the floor while you take screenshots of the stash, ESPECIALLY when the team FORCES you to use the non-hd graphics while taking the screenshots, because it hides the floor while the stash is open..
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Oct 12 2023 09:35am
Good question
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Oct 12 2023 09:39am
Hopefully a JM or SM can answer your question.
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Oct 12 2023 10:10am
There have been similar questions in the past and I have yet to see a clear answer written. It's always "we have a process to follow for a reason" yada yada.

The real answer is there isn't a fool proof way besides video when doing a trade/proving innocents. So they come up with a flawed "system" and back it up no matter what.
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Oct 12 2023 10:12am
Quote (OrdinaryGirl @ Oct 12 2023 11:10am)
There have been similar questions in the past and I have yet to see a clear answer written. It's always "we have a process to follow for a reason" yada yada.

The real answer is there isn't a fool proof way besides video when doing a trade/proving innocents. So they come up with a flawed "system" and back it up no matter what.


Thank you for your input.
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