in my opinion the difference in prices from what you list and what i pricechecked at is due to a few factors.

#1 the price of premium perfect stat items vs near perfect. i.e. a 3/3/20 charm going for 40 fg when i have 3/3/xx ar charms listed at 15-25 fg. do i think that 40 fg is a reasonable price to expect for 3/3/20 scs? maybe. do i think that there is a good chance that people pay more than what they should for 100% perf items in order to have max stats when the actual gain is negligible? yes

often people demand much higher prices for a 3/3/20 sc than a 3/3/19 sc simply because that 1 extra ar will allow them acces to a market of traders who are by nature picky and willing to spend more fg. this guide is however meant for lld traders who in general and in my opinion are much less picky when it comes to the gain of 1 ar on a charm.

there will inevitibly be items which are crossovers into the realm of HLD items, when this happens a clashing of two seperate markets occurs andthe difference in price of what an lld trader and hld trader are willing to pay will always be present. for this reason i have held off on making an mld section to the guide, there is simply too much crossover to accurately pricecheck. a more effective tool would be a "what to keep for mld" list.

#2 my personal bias and preferences in trading come into play in this guide. i trade items quickly at a near max fg amount, that is to say i would rather move items quickly at 90% of their worth than bump a thread for 2 months while the buyer patiently awaits me to accept his offer or get outbid.

this is done for a good reason (despite the larger liquidity of fg i recieve from it) the population in lld is a small fraction of that in hld trading. for this reason the population is often much better aquanted with one another than hld traders. so each item i have for trade is not only "going to a good home" but going to someone i may know well. if i wait for max prices, which is viable, the dueler suffers and the player must wait to begin dueling which is the sole purpose of lld. u cannot baal on your dueler, it cannot be made into a mfer until you get ur setup, it is essentially useless until it is fully or near fully geared.

is this the most equitable way to trade in the longrun? no. however i endorse this practice because it helps to secure the niche that lld falls into in our much declined overall market.




sidenote: there is not NL copying going on in this thread, i have since my beginning in lld 6 years ago traded on ladder. additionally i have provided pricecheck services for thousands of items on the last 4 ladders. i will however make the following changes: 3 frw / 3-4 res charms (15-25 fg) 3 frw / 5 res charms (perf) (30-35 fg) 3/3/20 scs (perf) (30-40 fg)

thank you for your input it is always appreciated and will appear on the next version of this pricecheck thread

This post was edited by thesnipa on Dec 13 2013 08:31am

thx for making this bro. and vouch your lld knowledge ill be making another one soon

Excellent explanation. Makes a lot of sense
And I hear ya, I'm a patient and stubborn person lol So I WILL bump a thread for 3 months just to get the price I want (and usually do). But I suppose in a smaller community, like LLD, waiting to sell for a desired price isn't always a luxury they can afford.

My mistake about the NL vs ur prices thing. I just noticed a lot of similarities. But again, your explanation clarified that.

Gl!


/e and ty for acknowledging the changes

This post was edited by Fatal_Aquaintnc on Dec 13 2013 08:53am

Bump

what about lvl 25 Viso ?

99% of times a lld viso is shit. 100% charsi

simple reason being that 3 os helm offers 1-2 more sockets than a viso. and 2 socket jewels vs 18 or 30% ar is not a hard choice. 24 max damage beats 30 ar but ALOT

Bump

What about

ATSOD (30/20 3os Tower Shield)

and

24FHR 3os Armors (Gothic Plate, Etc)

Been looking for P/c's on these, didn't see them in your Lv. 30 List

Also, would 3os Helms with 10-15 Life still be more valued then 15ED 3os Helms?

I have like 1x 11 Life 3os Crown and 1x 10 Life 3os Crown

Thank god for this thread dude, really helps a lot. Instant bookmark.

Thasnipa, much appreciate. While I didn't know much about lld, it is something that has intrigued for a while. Was thinking about giving it a try this ladder. Maybe when my toon is finished i'll let you know so we can duel.

Thanks again for the guide.