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Feb 4 2011 08:48am
idk why, but some people think an ESMBFBSORC should be able to defeat these races:

Hammerdin - 85 resists. 5000 HP. Ability to turn INVISABLE. 16-17k unsorbable magic damage.

BvC - 85 resists. 7500 HP. Massive amounts of physical damage, poison damage, and open wounds damage. (the es should absorb most of the physical damage, but people don't realize that poison and o/w are an es sorc's worst nightmare)

Windy Druid - 85 resists. 6000 HP. An armor spell that absorbs all elemental damage and can be recasted at any time without a cooldown rate. A bear that causes knockback. 7000 unblockable physical damage.

ANY assassin - I'm not going to bother typing out the advantages ANY assassin has over a sorc because I don't want to spend 2 hours on this thread.

Yes this is a QQ thread, why don't you QQ about me QQ'ing?
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Feb 4 2011 08:50am
iso gm 1v1 duels pm me anyone if you read this
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Feb 4 2011 08:50am
esmbfb should only have problems vs sins, oh and svs sorcs...oh and let's not forget necros ^_^

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Feb 4 2011 08:51am
Quote (CSLking @ Feb 4 2011 10:50am)
esmbfb should only have problems vs sins.


explain to me why they should win against any class mentioned
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explain to me why they should win against any class mentioned


Hammerdin - use blaze or fw to get rid of his synch, and walk south shoot upwards.

BvC - you are mb, kidding me?

Windy Druid - ez match cuz their cyclone armor won't tank that much
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idk why, but some people think an ESMBFBSORC should be able to defeat these races:

Hammerdin - 85 resists. 5000 HP. Ability to turn INVISABLE. 16-17k unsorbable magic damage. --> A pvp hdin does more like 12k-14k damage max (especially if you want flexibility), which is 2k damage after pvp penalty, 95% ES makes it 200 damage and any MDR they have will reduce it even more.. Hdins do pathetic damage to ES FBs.. And they don't have 5000 hp, it's more like 4.5k (unless you're one of those retards that does a non-block hdin), it's not hard for 15k fbs to break that, especially for a hit and run char... Note that hammerdin has to be in range for hammers to hit, FBer can just spam.. good namelock north fireballs will rape a stomping hdin..

BvC - 85 resists. 7500 HP. Massive amounts of physical damage, poison damage, and open wounds damage. (the es should absorb most of the physical damage, but people don't realize that poison and o/w are an es sorc's worst nightmare) --> Title:: esMB If only 25% of your attacks hit and out of those 25% trigger open wounds, that's not a good enough chance, is it? ^^

Windy Druid - 85 resists. 6000 HP. An armor spell that absorbs all elemental damage and can be recasted at any time without a cooldown rate. A bear that causes knockback. 7000 unblockable physical damage. --> fb spam = dead zoo.. dead zoo = dead windy unless the fber is stupid enough to stomp the windy and get owned by nados..

ANY assassin - I'm not going to bother typing out the advantages ANY assassin has over a sorc because I don't want to spend 2 hours on this thread. --> True.. Any assassin would rape an ES FB..

Yes this is a QQ thread, why don't you QQ about me QQ'ing?


Fixed answers for you inline..
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Feb 4 2011 08:53am
either due to the fact they're es, or due to the fact they're mb

put them together and sins and svs sorcs are the only chars that should ever give you problems
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Feb 4 2011 08:54am
Hammerdins are easy to beat (although a lot of shitties whine about them)

A well built ES sorc can beat a druid NP

And a block ES Sorc shouldnt have any problem with a barb

Sins obv dominate sorcs for the most part
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Feb 4 2011 09:00am
Quote (ashwinthegrim @ Feb 4 2011 10:53am)
Fixed answers for you inline..


idk why, but some people think an ESMBFBSORC should be able to defeat these races:

Hammerdin - 85 resists. 5000 HP. Ability to turn INVISABLE. 16-17k unsorbable magic damage. A pvp hdin does more like 12k-14k damage max (especially if you want flexibility), which is 2k damage after pvp penalty, 95% ES makes it 200 damage and any MDR they have will reduce it even more.. Hdins do pathetic damage to ES FBs.. And they don't have 5000 hp, it's more like 4.5k (unless you're one of those retards that does a non-block hdin), it's not hard for 15k fbs to break that, especially for a hit and run char... Note that hammerdin has to be in range for hammers to hit, FBer can just spam.. good namelock north fireballs will rape a stomping hdin..you're assuming i'm a 95 ES build, which most esfb's aren't. also, are you saying that a sorc will outtank a stomping hdin? also, how is a sorc suppossed to even namelock an invisable hdin before the hdin telestomps and smashes with a couple of hammers before synching away?

BvC - 85 resists. 7500 HP. Massive amounts of physical damage, poison damage, and open wounds damage. (the es should absorb most of the physical damage, but people don't realize that poison and o/w are an es sorc's worst nightmare) Title:: esMB If only 25% of your attacks hit and out of those 25% trigger open wounds, that's not a good enough chance, is it? ^^ it only takes 1 hit to do massive amounts of poison damage/open wounds damage, 2-3 hits should be enough to kill any ES sorc, maxblock or not. you are aware whirlwind has like 10-15 hits per cast right? it's not hard to land one which can easily take at least 25% of the sorceress's HP

Windy Druid - 85 resists. 6000 HP. An armor spell that absorbs all elemental damage and can be recasted at any time without a cooldown rate. A bear that causes knockback. 7000 unblockable physical damage. fb spam = dead zoo.. dead zoo = dead windy unless the fber is stupid enough to stomp the windy and get owned by nados..there is no ES sorc that can outtank a windy druid. even if the wind druid feels insecure, he will teleport away and recast cyclone armor. this will tank about 2 fireballs, enough to get him the few hits he needs to put the sorceress in an FHR lock. and this is assuming the bear + ravens dont put her in an FHR lock from the start. AND even if she does break through the armor, she has to break through 85 res and 6000 hp, and how much FHR do druids have? like 173 or some high ass number?

ANY assassin - I'm not going to bother typing out the advantages ANY assassin has over a sorc because I don't want to spend 2 hours on this thread. True.. Any assassin would rape an ES FB..

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Quote (CSLking @ Feb 4 2011 10:52am)
Hammerdin - use blaze or fw to get rid of his synch, and walk south shoot upwards.

BvC - you are mb, kidding me?

Windy Druid - ez match cuz their cyclone armor won't tank that much


Hammerdin - how does blaze or firewall remove a synch from a paladin?
lol..?

BvC - no, i'm not kidding you, it takes ONE hit to do MASSIVE amounts of psn and open wounds damage to the ES sorc. are you kidding me?

Windy Druid - cyclone armor will tank 2 hits, 85 res and mass life will tank the rest. and then they will go recast.
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