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May 12 2010 12:17pm
rofl'd at Bio_knt.. I have a better rep than you.

Don't try to sell shit with known multis as your history.

This is about as good as dark111 mfing a sloop.
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May 12 2010 12:19pm
Quote (BiO_KnT @ 12 May 2010 13:09)
Nigga please i'll give 100% refund to buyer so stfu dumb shit


Seems legit.
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May 12 2010 12:22pm
1. Legit: An item is legit, by definition, if it has never been duped. It is an entirely unique, one-of-a-kind item with its very own item code (more on item codes later).

2. Perm: An item is perm, by definition, if it has been duped without an item code. In general, the only way this is possible is if the item was duped no later than the 1.09 patch. Starting with 1.10, Blizzard implemented item codes (again, more on this later). The exception to this rule is the duping of "virgin bases." If a white (normal) item is duped without ever having been made into a runeword, it will be perm. This is because only rare, magic, unique, and runeword items have item codes. If an item is made into a runeword and later cleared out with a hel rune, it still has an item code.

3. Item Code: Implemented by Blizzard in the 1.10 patch. Any items duped now will have identical item codes. Whenever 2 items with the same item code are in the same game (I believe it can even be on the same ip), they "clash" and "poof." This makes it impossible to perm dupe without altering item codes (some say certain sites can do this allowing them to perm dupe, I personally have no idea if this is true or not). Any item that was perm receives an item code identical to the new item and thus becomes unperm if it is duped. When clashing an item, you are attempting to find an unperm of the same item code, not merely the same name. Some people don't understand this very well, so here is an example:

In 1.09, a valk is duped. There are 5 copies, Valk A, Valk B, Valk C, Valk D, and Valk E. Valks A, B, C, and E are duped in patch 1.10. They are now unperm. Valk D, while still being a dupe, is not unperm because it does not have an item code that has any duplicates. Alternatively, the possessor of a duped "Valk A" might think their valk is, in fact, perm. They clash it against known unperm copies of Valks B, C, and E without any poofing. They need to clash it against another "Valk A" inorder to poof it.

Now multiply the number of post .09-duped valks, add the fact that you don't know which is which, and you will see why clash testing will never truly be effective in ascertaining an item's validity.
I would like to add that item codes are entirely different from item levels(ilvl), and there is no way to see an item's item code.
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May 12 2010 12:22pm
Quote (ike9438 @ May 12 2010 12:19pm)
Seems legit.


Ofc
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May 12 2010 12:24pm
Quote (blink4 @ May 12 2010 01:11pm)
iam still wondering wen u clashed it


FUCKING ANSWER THIS QUESTION WEN DID U CLASH IT?
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May 12 2010 12:24pm
Quote (TheChosen @ May 12 2010 12:22pm)
1. Legit: An item is legit, by definition, if it has never been duped. It is an entirely unique, one-of-a-kind item with its very own item code (more on item codes later).

2. Perm: An item is perm, by definition, if it has been duped without an item code. In general, the only way this is possible is if the item was duped no later than the 1.09 patch. Starting with 1.10, Blizzard implemented item codes (again, more on this later). The exception to this rule is the duping of "virgin bases." If a white (normal) item is duped without ever having been made into a runeword, it will be perm. This is because only rare, magic, unique, and runeword items have item codes. If an item is made into a runeword and later cleared out with a hel rune, it still has an item code.

3. Item Code: Implemented by Blizzard in the 1.10 patch. Any items duped now will have identical item codes. Whenever 2 items with the same item code are in the same game (I believe it can even be on the same ip), they "clash" and "poof." This makes it impossible to perm dupe without altering item codes (some say certain sites can do this allowing them to perm dupe, I personally have no idea if this is true or not). Any item that was perm receives an item code identical to the new item and thus becomes unperm if it is duped. When clashing an item, you are attempting to find an unperm of the same item code, not merely the same name. Some people don't understand this very well, so here is an example:

In 1.09, a valk is duped. There are 5 copies, Valk A, Valk B, Valk C, Valk D, and Valk E. Valks A, B, C, and E are duped in patch 1.10. They are now unperm. Valk D, while still being a dupe, is not unperm because it does not have an item code that has any duplicates. Alternatively, the possessor of a duped "Valk A" might think their valk is, in fact, perm. They clash it against known unperm copies of Valks B, C, and E without any poofing. They need to clash it against another "Valk A" inorder to poof it.

Now multiply the number of post .09-duped valks, add the fact that you don't know which is which, and you will see why clash testing will never truly be effective in ascertaining an item's validity.
I would like to add that item codes are entirely different from item levels(ilvl), and there is no way to see an item's item code.


Lol my friends vouched it so I bought it
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May 12 2010 12:25pm
Quote (BiO_KnT @ May 12 2010 01:24pm)
Lol my friends vouched it so I bought it


wen was this? bout 2-3 years ago?

http://forums.d2jsp.org/user.php?i=295136 hasnt been on in over 1200 days lol

Quote (blink4 @ May 12 2010 01:11pm)
iam still wondering wen u clashed it


FUCKING ANSWER THIS QUESTION WEN DID U CLASH IT?

this

This post was edited by blink4 on May 12 2010 12:28pm
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May 12 2010 12:25pm
Quote (BiO_KnT @ May 12 2010 11:05am)
pk420 ---> Me ---> You

He clashed it in front of me

jesus fuck leave me alone


k theres several problems with this thread

1. pk420 is this guys new multi http://forums.d2jsp.org/user.php?i=582170 he is a scammer.
2. there are more than 1 unclashing vb, you can clash it with the same vb o500 times and it will never poof, but then the first time you clash it with a different id number it poofs....
3. several people here were actually interested in your vb they shouldn't need to work so damm hard to get the history out of you..i for damm sure wouldn't buy a vb no history lool and it just makes it that much worse when they find out the history really sucked.
4. sry for your loss.
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May 12 2010 12:26pm
While I am on PK420's friend list I never vouched this VB... He was telling me someone quit and gave him a perm vb... I think you should find out the history before PK420... I can't remember the name atm.. but that might help you.
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May 12 2010 12:26pm
Quote (BiO_KnT @ 12 May 2010 10:24)
Lol my friends vouched it so I bought it


And now it dies with you.
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