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Jan 21 2010 11:18am
Quote (Kosmos @ Jan 21 2010 12:06pm)
doesnt matter

10% ds >> + another 300 def and 20 life

so it's better than rares


cool, you have 3 of the 5 required stats for a gg zeal helm.

it needs more life, and more defense too.

and 300 defense to a zealer is about 2-3k defense + right?

you're trying to diminish the other stats by posting out a 10ds/2soc/vis helm when it specifically needs DEFENSE and LIFE

as well as the other stats that follows on it, its worth something, but not a lot though, dont get me wrong, its a nice helm, but it still needs the other stats to be a top zealer helm though.

This post was edited by kofaze on Jan 21 2010 11:28am
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Jan 21 2010 11:23am
Quote (kofaze @ Jan 21 2010 01:18pm)
cool, you have 3 of the 5 required stats for a gg zeal helm.

it needs more life, and more defense too.

and 300 defense to a zealer is about 2-3k defense + right?


yes you are right
i think its only like 2xx def for 2k def
im not stupid cosmos
i have a zealer and know there need's.
10ds is fail if there not atleast 2xx def
not rly fail but not better then a rare 2soc 300+def with 20-40life O.o

your the dumb one whos getting flamed by mass people in ur own topic.

sure its good
and yes very rare to craft but its still not that appealing with no ed watsoever

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Jan 21 2010 11:27am
Quote (kofaze @ Jan 21 2010 06:18pm)
cool, you have 3 of the 5 required stats for a gg zeal helm.

it needs more life, and more defense too.

and 300 defense to a zealer is about 2-3k defense + right?


yes 300 base def is added is pretty much exactly 3k added. but that doesnt make it more worth than 10% ds

I'll show you with calcs what is better gimme a few mins...

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Jan 21 2010 11:36am
Formula to calculate chance to hit(cth.):
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Chance to Hit = 2 * atlvl / (atlvl + dflvl) * AR / (AR + Defense);  multiply by 100 to get CtH in %


if we assume both chars have same level we can take out a part of the equation.

that leaves us to:

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AR / (AR + Defense)


so lets take a look at difference in chance to hit with 140 def helm and 440 def helm

a 300 increase in base def for pala will give roughly +3000 in totall def after skill bonuses.

a pala with zb for, storm etc without helm has rougly 36000 defence

with 140 def helm about 37400 after skill% added

with a 440 def helm about 40400 def after skill% added.


now to the difference in cth%. using this formula;
Code
AR / (AR + Defense)
:

(a good zealer has around 30,000 ar right. then lets use that for both cases ofcourse)


140 def helm: 30,000/(30,000+37400) = 0.445 = 44.5% chance to get hit.


440 def helm: 30,000/(30,000+40400) = 0.426 = 42.6% chance to get hit.

so 1.9% difference in chance to get hit vs 10% chance to do doubble damage (=6.66% damage increase)

conclusion: 10% ds is way superior to 300 def add

:D

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Quote (Kosmos @ 21 Jan 2010 12:36)
Formula to calculate chance to hit(cth.):
Code
Chance to Hit = 2 * atlvl / (atlvl + dflvl) * AR / (AR + Defense);  multiply by 100 to get CtH in %


if we assume both chars have same level we can take out a part of the equation.

that leaves us to:

Code
AR / (AR + Defense)


so lets take a look at difference in chance to hit with 140 def helm and 440 def helm

a 300 increase in base def for pala will give roughly +3000 in totall def after skill bonuses.

a pala with zb for, storm etc without helm has rougly 36000 defence

with 140 def helm about 37400 after skill% added

with a 440 def helm about 40400 def after skill% added.


now to the difference in cth%. using this formula;
Code
AR / (AR + Defense)
:

(a good zealer has around 30,000 ar right. then lets use that for both cases ofcourse)


140 def helm: 30,000/(30,000+37400) = 0.445 = 44.5% chance to get hit.


440 def helm: 30,000/(30,000+40400) = 0.426 = 42.6% chance to get hit.

so 1.9% difference in chance to get hit vs 10% chance to do doubble damage (=6.66% damage increase)

conclusion: 10% ds is way superior

:D

think what you want, but this helm is not gg, and wont sell very high without good def\life
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Jan 21 2010 11:45am
Quote (Ironskins @ Jan 21 2010 06:43pm)
think what you want, but this helm is not gg, and wont sell very high without good def\life


ok dummie now stop spamming I just proved you wrong you know nothing about this game.
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Jan 21 2010 11:59am
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Quote (walooo @ Jan 22 2010 01:59am)
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Jan 21 2010 01:02pm
Meh, Why post in the Warriors guild chat when you are going to flame someone telling you whats what. Sell to Charsi imho cockslap
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Quote (MoOna @ Jan 21 2010 08:02pm)
Meh, Why post in the Warriors guild chat when you are going to flame someone telling you whats what. Sell to Charsi imho cockslap


he's wrong and keeps persisting.

I'm an honest person I don't pat peoples back just because they are the same guild as me. If I don't get voted in Warriors then so be it.
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