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Jul 24 2011 12:58pm
As u can see my +8 upgrade results.

also u can see +8 (without mods) is better compared to a +5 (with two 10% physic mods), because the base dmg is low and the % isnt effective (shield pene, crit, novamods better)
there are big difference between a non upgraded hus and perf upg one (30% more dmg in max and minimum)


For rifler users as comparision 600 shot/m 44-60 dmg (= 2xhus = 1200 s/m 22-30 dmg)
so u need a rifle with 44-60 dmg (with 6 mods) 600s/m to keep the same dmg output

also note the green shield on the godly +8 weapon in the pic :)


This post was edited by LP_Soldier on Jul 24 2011 01:03pm
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Jul 24 2011 02:15pm
Mod effects aren't shown in the item screen, so I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to show.
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Quote (Veilside @ Jul 24 2011 09:15pm)
Mod effects aren't shown in the item screen, so I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to show.


okay iam failed noticed thats its not physic dmg...-__-

edit:but iam sure dmg different wont be huge even u use physic dmg% mods

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Quote (LP_Soldier @ Jul 24 2011 09:24pm)
okay iam failed noticed thats its not physic dmg...-__-

edit:but iam sure dmg different wont be huge even uuse physic dmg% mods


Regardless of the element or how big it is, you won't see the damage shown on the item description.

You can see the calculation to work out damage at this link:
http://www.hellgateforums.com/wiki/Damage

Also, undocumented, but the guy that used to be the Items Team Advisor for FSS told me today that successful crits ignore a target's defence, so high crit chance has a much higher damage than you'd think, simply because the enemy no longer has any DR.
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Jul 24 2011 02:42pm
Quote (Veilside @ Jul 24 2011 09:34pm)
Regardless of the element or how big it is, you won't see the damage shown on the item description.

You can see the calculation to work out damage at this link:
http://www.hellgateforums.com/wiki/Damage

Also, undocumented, but the guy that used to be the Items Team Advisor for FSS told me today that successful crits ignore a target's defence, so high crit chance has a much higher damage than you'd think, simply because the enemy no longer has any DR.


thought i noticed dmg differents when i use fire % ed mods on my lees
big thx for link!

will try it out then :)
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Jul 24 2011 02:50pm
Quote (Veilside @ Jul 24 2011 04:34pm)
Regardless of the element or how big it is, you won't see the damage shown on the item description.

You can see the calculation to work out damage at this link:
http://www.hellgateforums.com/wiki/Damage

Also, undocumented, but the guy that used to be the Items Team Advisor for FSS told me today that successful crits ignore a target's defence, so high crit chance has a much higher damage than you'd think, simply because the enemy no longer has any DR.


? It clearly adds 21% damage in the picture.

210 + 44.1(21%) = 254

if you did this on the +8 you would gain 65.1 damage

edit: whats more impressive is getting +8, i spent over 700 nanos on my mythic sword and couldn't get +6

This post was edited by Saliozo on Jul 24 2011 02:52pm
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Quote (Saliozo @ Jul 24 2011 09:50pm)
? It clearly adds 21% damage in the picture.

210 + 44.1(21%) = 254

if you did this on the +8 you would gain 65.1 damage


Just ignore that big number, it's absolutely irrelevant and just causes confusion. Just use it as a general rating as opposed to a real indicator of a weapon's damage.
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Quote (Veilside @ Jul 24 2011 09:55pm)
Just ignore that big number, it's absolutely irrelevant and just causes confusion. Just use it as a general rating as opposed to a real indicator of a weapon's damage.


most importand is base dmg & shot/m

the absolut dmg isnt irrelevant
its a summary of max-min dmg and standard weapon speed

edit: question of luck time and pd amount :D

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Jul 24 2011 04:46pm
seems like my mistake in pasting the wrong +5 hus:
@Saliozo ur right

dmg numbers are changing proove:



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Jul 24 2011 09:03pm
the big number is DPS, average ofc, not exactly a rating number like as is on some items.
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