Hi, i yesterday got hellgate london, and i read here that i cant skill back something, so im scared to skill something crappy :/
can u help me plz and say what is good at summoner and what can i skill good

i beleave there are few different builds, the most used one is i guess the warper build, then comes carnagor build and the last one is WD build

u might try to check older pages, im sure there are how to use the skillpoints

http://forums.d2jsp.org/index.php?showtopic=13197582&f=299

http://forums.d2jsp.org/index.php?showtopic=13297962&f=299

try checking these

This post was edited by heprea on Dec 25 2007 08:58am

Check this well written guide out from the official forums http://forums.hellgatelondon.com/showthread.php?t=23150
(required to log in there with your ingame account/pass)

Started with a summoner first aswell when is started elite, but was clueless what to take even after reading up.

So i just took up another char .

Screwing up is part of learning imo.

max warper and specttral bonus dmg/speed

most importand vs nightmare

edit: 8/10 warp & 5/7 i mean + 2 masters hand (2skill) then max

This post was edited by LP_Soldier on Dec 25 2007 10:26am

I prefer Carnagor... warper is just silly when you've got all those elementals imo. I just go for Carnagor for a badass tank instead, and let elementals sit back and do all the damage while Carnagor is tanking. It helps a lot in Act 5 NM, where all the monsters are lvl 57-60+ and do crazy dmg to you.

I got 10 in Carnagor, but I wish I had put only 7 points in him instead, or maybe just 4... if you're really really lucky, you could find a pistol or focus item with +3 Carnagor / +3 Summoning Circle. That would be godly for prebuff. So far, I'm just using a focus item and pistol with +2 summmoning circle / +3 summoning circle, respectively. I only got 5 points in summoning circle so far. I would max it if they allowed the skill levels to go up past the max with +skills from gear, like on D2, but they don't....

u can have more than 10 in a skill it just lists as 11/10 and skill bonus increase, from what ive seen.

That was in the beta.

Where have you seen that, only readed it doesnt mather anymore if you go above 10 (with items)

Can you give screens or any prove/links for that?

I have an elite lvl50 summoner. My skill tree looks similar to this, but if I were allowed a respec, I would make it exactly like this.

http://hellgate.ingame.de/skilltree/summoner/?l=50&s=1700830000002100001800050300

Everything gets put to 8/10, 5/7 and 3/5 because of the 2 master's hand I'm using, which add +1 Summoner skills each. Elementals don't do nearly enough damage to kill anything in act5/endgame in elite nm, so I highly suggest going with a warper build instead of a carnagor one. The force elementals tank perfectly fine, and with 4 of them you can be sure that you'll have at least 1 out at all times. With this build you have 10 extra skill points to play around with, so there are some optional skills you can go with.

+1 in Word of Fear if you find yourself having to run away from mobs too often, it the only "escape skill" available to you.
+3 Elemental Drain (takes another 5 just in pre-requisites) this is what I chose to spend my extra points in on my summoner. In Elite NM while killing the 5 lies and syd, elemental drain helped a huge amount, allowing my fire elementals to ingnite a few times.
+more in summoning circle - Don't max this out to 8/10, but instead find 2 weapons which add 2-3 to summoning circle/+to warper, and use them while summoning instead. The life boost will stay when you switch back to you main weapons.

Don't put any points into reaper, just get a weapon on switch that adds to it. I use him in emergencies when all my warper gets overwhelmed. He works as an emergency skill instead of word of fear.