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Jan 4 2008 06:09pm
IMO, single is better, i'd go like this if i were u biggrin.gif

icon_pointr.gif http://hellgate.ingame.de/skilltree/marksman/?l=50&s=0007a5071077000005000000000


Escape + Art = u dont need to use Sprint, since u'll have 75% speed + non detectable by mobs for 10 seconds
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Jan 4 2008 06:20pm
@ Old_Grandma:

Homing Shot does not work w/ auto-rifles. Yes, it does Proc with auto-rifles. The question is, when it does proc w/ auto-rifles, what does it do? Back when the Forums wasn't all screwed up (now it's getting better again w/ separate Factions section again), countless ppl have asked, and countless ppl have answered. I for one (and many have also) tested it out myself many times. And for the most part, ppl seem to agree and have similar experience when testing. My question to you old_grandma, how do you exactly know it's working? When homing shot procs with auto-rifles, and you aim at a target, try to shoot in burst and see what happens....it'll just hit the target like it does normally w/o doing anything special or out of the ordinary.

edit: Since the we're getting our own faction section back in the Forums, I can guarantee you questions about homing shot will pop up many times again, as it did in the past. And you will see ppl that have tested it will respond with similar feedback about homing shot + auto-rifles

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Quote (soul-keeper @ Fri, Jan 4 2008, 04:09pm)
IMO, single is better, i'd go like this if i were u biggrin.gif

icon_pointr.gif http://hellgate.ingame.de/skilltree/marksman/?l=50&s=0007a5071077000005000000000


Escape + Art = u dont need to use Sprint, since u'll have 75% speed + non detectable by mobs for 10 seconds


I love all the different variations.

I am thinking I may just do this:
http://hellgate.ingame.de/skilltree/marksman/?l=50&s=0007a1070077a00000000000000


and if homing ever decides to work with your average machine gun, Ill add that in too.

picking beacon on my first test char, then will tweak it after respec if need be.
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Quote (OnionJuice @ Fri, Jan 4 2008, 04:20pm)
@ Old_Grandma:

Homing Shot does not work w/ auto-rifles. Yes, it does Proc with auto-rifles. The question is, when it does proc w/ auto-rifles, what does it do? Back when the Forums wasn't all screwed up (now it's getting better again w/ separate Factions section again), countless ppl have asked, and countless ppl have answered. I for one (and many have also) tested it out myself many times. And for the most part, ppl seem to agree and have similar experience when testing. My question to you old_grandma, how do you exactly know it's working? When homing shot procs with auto-rifles, and you aim at a target, try to shoot in burst and see what happens....it'll just hit the target like it does normally w/o doing anything special or out of the ordinary.


I was wanting more for the potentially wild shots while running and the accuracy degrades. but you have a valid point if I was stationary.

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this was supposed to be an edit.

This post was edited by blind_chief on Jan 4 2008 06:24pm
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Jan 4 2008 06:28pm
Yep I hear ya chief. So in situations where you are running around shooting wildly, sometimes you might mis-aim and therefore hope that homing shot procs, which would then guarantee a hit. However, as I've stated on my first post here to your thread, I've also tested it where I would mis-aim a target...but it did nothing...it did not randomly seek a target w/ auto-rifles.

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Quote (OnionJuice @ Fri, Jan 4 2008, 04:28pm)
Yep I hear ya chief. So in situations where you are running around shooting wilding, sometimes you might mis-aim and therefore hope that homing shot procs, which would then guarantee a hit. However, as I've stated on my first post here to your thread, I've also tested it where I would mis-aim a target...but it did nothing...it did not randomly seek a target w/ auto-rifles.


just wishful thinking it seems. maybe it will be made to work with all guns eventually, as it does not really apply to your average multi-shot build.
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Jan 4 2008 06:45pm
yea it would be nice I hear ya, especially for ppl like yourself who uses (or will use) auto-rifles. But, to be honest with ya, just by reading the description, I doubt it. "Certain Projectile-Based Guns.." According to Merriam-Webster (Sorry I had to do this, it helped convinced a lot of ppl back in the Forums), one of the definitions for projectile is "a self-propelling weapon (as a rocket); a missile for a weapon (as a firearm)". So by this definition, it does seem to fit the gun-types of a cluster rifle or other certain missile base guns in HGL, rather than a bullet shooting auto-rifle. But that's just my take on it. wink.gif
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Quote (OnionJuice @ Fri, Jan 4 2008, 04:45pm)
yea it would be nice I hear ya, especially for ppl like yourself who uses (or will use) auto-rifles. But, to be honest with ya, just by reading the description, I doubt it. "Certain Projectile-Based Guns.." According to Merriam-Webster (Sorry I had to do this, it helped convinced a lot of ppl back in the Forums), one of the definitions for projectile is "a self-propelling weapon (as a rocket); a missile for a weapon (as a firearm)". So by this definition, it does seem to fit the gun-types of a cluster rifle or other certain missile base guns in HGL, rather than a bullet shooting auto-rifle. But that's just my take on it.  wink.gif


lol, that's deep. though a projectile is anything that passes through space by force, either self-propelled or pushed (a bullet is pushed out of the barrel). but I would agree that this was FSS's intention.

good discussion lol. I think I understand MM now.

Ill start a good evoker discussion in a week or two lol.
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Jan 4 2008 08:22pm
i would suggest 1 point into Hollow points for 20% more dmg when u do get crits. Thats allot. Take 1 pnt off ur phase nade or riccoh as 90% will make it proc all time also.
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Jan 4 2008 08:26pm
I'd make a Marksman now with that build and if it sucks just use the reset chip they're giving at next patch to make a regular Marksman.

Or you could test it in single player with those files.

I always rambo with my mm too, I hate stopping for rapid and only use when absolutely necessary.

~Kinky.
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