yes i know , but if rico and reflected trigger then nothing stands a chance.homing would just help to focus the missiles at 1 enemy - imo homing shot isnt needed.

i donno, if the mobs are spread far out homing seems like a grand idea IMO..

but it all depends on playstyle really I guess

http://hellgate.ingame.de/skilltree/marksman/?l=50&s=0007a1071097000000070000000

think I am gonna try this. worst case I suck and I remake, or wait for respec. hoping the homing kicks in with rico and reflec and directs them all.


Any idea how much phase attack strength is needed to effectively phase mobs in the higher levels (40+)?

don't get homing shot: are you using a auto-rifle? or a missile like projectile (ie, cluster rifle)? If you are going to use an auto-rifle, homing shot does absolutely nothing for you (read the description, 'certain projectile'). I've tested this skill many times w/ my softcore char, and I've posted it several times on the forums, and many other ppl have similar experiences. When homing shot proc using my Veteran (auto-rifle), I tried to "mis-aim" to see if it'll still lock on a target (randomly), it doesn't. And if you test it w/ a single mob, does absolutely nothing. However, if you use that "certain projectile" gun like a cluster rifle (this gun u can actually see the missile firing from the gun), you'll see that the missile will randomly target a mob. Worst, if you have ur cursor over a mob closet to you and right in front of you (3-4m) it'll still curve either right or left randomly. As of now, if that's how it works....it's just utterly worthless for it to seek its own target randomly and not the "best" target (ie; one that's right in front of you about to take a swing at ya).

Phase nade: Yea that's a good nade should u take that route. As you can tell, nades scale up as you lvl. so even at skill rank 1, it'll still do a good amount of phase attack str. But here's the problem...should u use ur phase nade w/ mobs that have shield (and most do), it won't phase them (unless of course you have shield penetration FROM ONLY your armor). Many ppl complain it's not phasing...that's one problem. Now, to try and answer ur question (perhaps someoe else can do a better job since I didn't chose this skill...BUT I do have it on a switch with rank lvl 2), it phases a good amount depending on the mob. I only have lvl 2 from my switch, and the only ones that give me trouble are (obviously) rare/leg/epic/named mobs. It works...but not always at the first try. However, u have to take note that I have elemental beacon maxed, so even at my lvl 2, I can still do a good amount of elemental status effect. And i recommend you get that too, especially over homing shot

edit: If you're going the route you are, it'll probably serve you best to find 2 one handed guns w/ multi-shot on switch so you can use it from time to time against harder named/boss mobs

This post was edited by OnionJuice on Jan 3 2008 07:51pm

i'm biulding the MM now whit a little other stats that prove its useful to me
the cloack skill is very usefull when ur surounded did 3skils in it since i dont gonna take the grenade skill but whats the meaning of beacon just dont get it

beacon amplifies dmg on a monster that you activate it on.

@ onion: ty for a detailed explanation. and are you saying that missile rifle is the only guns homing work with? well, in that case, i will go with ele beacon and phase grenades (which I need to find a good balance), and maybe one extra in escape and one in escape artist?

Yes, but not all missile rifles. The last time I tested it with a trident launcher, it didn't work. But definitely, homing shot (as of now) does not work with auto-rifles. IMHO I wouldn't put an extra point into escape and one point into escape artist simply because our skill points are limited, and I believe those 2 points can be used elsewhere. The escape artist allows you to run 15% faster while in escape mode...however, I would just suggest using sprint while you are in escape mode if you feel the need to get out of a situation quicker. Hope you enjoy your Rambo MM !!!

try it : http://hellgate.ingame.de/skilltree/marksman/?l=50&s=0007210710a730000001000a000

homing shot works with auto rifle, I'm using it myself and I often trigger it, It's very effective when all 3 are active.

if so, I need that confirmed. that would be awesome to work on a auto-rifle, though at some point it may be too strong.

@ soul-keeper: you have nailed my dilemma on the head. I just don't know if I want multi or single. I will most likely play around in norm to see how single works for me. though group play in nm multi seems more useful.