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Sep 8 2007 12:53pm
Quote (exair @ Sat, 8 Sep 2007, 20:46)
80%+ of the population speaks hungarian

o/ NAGY MAGYARORSZAG


because in the years they were under hungarian occupation, there were killings, and hungarian was imposed as a language. Basically, if we were to relive the past, would mean every hungarian in Romania to either speak Romanian or be put to death. Hungarians came into Transylvania in the last century. We were here 2k++ years ago. Guess that makes us the owners lol.

And if you were to read about our ancestors, from the old "DACIA" lead by Burebista few years bc.

the west borders were : Danube in the panonic plains. that includes all hungary. and that is a known fact. Basically we didn`t bitch about you coming after and forming Hungary. So why you people bitch about transylvania ? i`ll never be able to understand biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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Quote (B4al @ Sat, Sep 8 2007, 07:53pm)
because in the years they were under hungarian occupation, there were killings, and hungarian was imposed as a language. Basically, if we were to relive the past, would mean every hungarian in Romania to either speak Romanian or be put to death. Hungarians came into Transylvania in the last century. We were here 2k++ years ago. Guess that makes us the owners lol.

And if you were to read about our ancestors, from the old "DACIA" lead by Burebista few years bc.

the west borders were : Danube in the panonic plains. that includes all hungary. and that is a known fact. Basically we didn`t bitch about you coming after and forming Hungary. So why you people bitch about transylvania ? i`ll never be able to understand biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif


I dont know what were teachers told you but Romanians arrived into Transylvania after the middle of the 13th century which I wouldnt say 2k years.
And the cities you call Arad, oradea, Timisoara, Cluj were 90%+ Hungrian before Romanian occupation arrived and dropped out the citizens.

Edit: The Dacian idea is proven to be not true. And the nation Romanian was born in the middle of the 19th century when the two kingdoms near the Danube united. But this Dacian thingy made them speak something Latin.

This post was edited by Gyuladze on Sep 8 2007 12:58pm
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Quote (Gyuladze @ Sat, 8 Sep 2007, 20:56)
I dont know what were teachers told you but Romanians arrived into Transylvania after the middle of the 13th century which I wouldnt say 2k years.
And the cities you call Arad, oradea, Timisoara, Cluj were 90%+ Hungrian before Romanian occupation arrived and dropped out the citizens.


You had the Austro-Hungarian empire to go and conquer (as you did with that part of our country)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austria-Hungary

If you do not know history.

1867 – 1918

That was the period we are talking about.

remember that history is one man`s point of view. I for instance, read not the Romanian documents, nor the Hungarian ones, but the neutral. Do you do the same ? hardly doubt it. read before you talk, or it can make you look stupid ;]

Quote (Gyuladze @ Sat, 8 Sep 2007, 20:56)


Edit: The Dacian idea is proven to be not true. And the nation Romanian was born in the middle of the 19th century when the two kingdoms near the Danube united. But this Dacian thingy made them speak something Latin.


The dacians lived on this land till year 101 when we came under Roman (as in the Roman Empire, google for) occupation. After that, there were the slavic, slavon waves that came. That only influenced the words and spoken language, and by low ammounts the population.

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Quote (B4al @ Sat, Sep 8 2007, 07:53pm)
because in the years they were under hungarian occupation, there were killings, and hungarian was imposed as a language. Basically, if we were to relive the past, would mean every hungarian in Romania to either speak Romanian or be put to death. Hungarians came into Transylvania in the last century. We were here 2k++ years ago. Guess that makes us the owners lol.

And if you were to read about our ancestors, from the old "DACIA" lead by Burebista few years bc.

the west borders were : Danube in the panonic plains. that includes all hungary. and that is a known fact. Basically we didn`t bitch about you coming after and forming Hungary. So why you people bitch about transylvania ? i`ll never be able to understand biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif


you didnt have a chance to, we owned everyone @ 900, dacia was nothing but a provincy of rome in the early years, and they evacuated it @ 271, after that it belonged to noone

/e: we conquered it @ 896

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Quote (B4al @ Sat, 8 Sep 2007, 18:44)
Belongs to Romania.

since ~ 2000 years ago. Was taken into Hungarian occupation after the first world war.

july 1919, the romanian army advances took over Budapest.  They left by october.

30 august 1940 Joachim von Ribbentropp and Galeazzo Ciano forced the romanian into signing a treaty that gave to Hungary ~ 43k kms from Romania known as Nord Transylvania. In paris, the peace treaty in 1947, declares the previous document null, and Romania comes back to the `38 teritories.

Bye bye hungary from our country heart2.gif


this is a lie.

for example in the 15th century the following nations were in Transylvania: hungarian, german, saxon and 'székely', which I don't know in english. the dictonory says: 'inhabitant of transylvania'.
ROMANIANS WERE NOWHERE AT THAT TIME.
ROMANIANS CAME LATER. [UNFORTUNATELY sad.gif]

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Quote (B4al @ Sat, Sep 8 2007, 08:00pm)
You had the Austro-Hungarian empire to go and conquer (as you did with that part of our country)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austria-Hungary

If you do not know history.

1867 – 1918

That was the period we are talking about.

remember that history is one man`s point of view. I for instance, read not the Romanian documents, nor the Hungarian ones, but the neutral. Do you do the same ? hardly doubt it. read before you talk, or it can make you look stupid ;]


Ahh the Monarchy you are talking about. Well you spoke about something like Romanians were in Transylvania for more thank 2k years, it is why I replied you some facts. And it was not in the Austria-Hungary times as long as I can count. smile.gif

Quote (farki @ Sat, Sep 8 2007, 08:01pm)
this is a lie.

for example in the 15th century the following nations were in Transylvania: hungarian, german, saxon and 'székely', which I don't know in english. the dictonory says: 'inhabitant of transylvania'.
ROMANIANS WERE NOWHERE AT THAT TIME.
ROMANIANS CAME LATER. [UNFORTUNATELY sad.gif]


The first Romanians arrived when the Mongols destroyed Hungary and exited. They came to have more workers. Basically Roamians were living in the Balcan and arrived near the Sea they are living now (Black Sea), Moldva, and few of them Transylvania.

This post was edited by Gyuladze on Sep 8 2007 01:07pm
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Quote (exair @ Sat, 8 Sep 2007, 21:00)


you didnt have a chance to, we owned everyone @ 900, dacia was nothing but a provincy of rome in the early years, and they evacuated it @ 271, after that it belonged to noone

/e: we conquered it @ 896


And if that happened, why did you let it go ?

Quote (Gyuladze @ Sat, 8 Sep 2007, 21:03)
Ahh the Monarchy you are talking about. Well you spoke about something like Romanians were in Transylvania for more thank 2k years, it is why I replied you some facts. And it was not in the Austria-Hungary times as long as I can count. smile.gif


Romania was formed as a country in 1600, spring by Mihai later known as Viteazu.

before that, they were the 3 romanian principates. That is a fact. Google feudalism and feudal society to learn more on the subject ;]

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Quote (B4al @ Sat, Sep 8 2007, 08:04pm)
And if that happened, why did you let it go ?


because hungarians arent sideswitcher sneaky bastards (we tried it, but failed)
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Quote (exair @ Sat, 8 Sep 2007, 21:05)
because hungarians arent sideswitcher sneaky bastards (we tried it, but failed)


If you conquer by force, you will never be able to keep.

That happened. On your side. we never attacked anyone for land. That cannot be said about the Austro-hungarian empire. (i know it`s history).

And a reality icon_pointr.gif transylvania belongs to Romania. and will always be part of.

Quote (Gyuladze @ Sat, 8 Sep 2007, 21:03)
The first Romanians arrived when the Mongols destroyed Hungary and exited. They came to have more workers. Basically Roamians were living in the Balcan and arrived near the Sea they are living now (Black Sea), Moldva, and few of them Transylvania.


LOL. You got no clue what you`re talking about laugh.gif

This post was edited by B4al on Sep 8 2007 01:09pm
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Quote (B4al @ Sat, Sep 8 2007, 08:04pm)
Romania was formed as a country in 1600, spring by Mihai later known as Viteazu.

before that, they were the 3 romanian principates. That is a fact. Google feudalism and feudal society to learn more on the subject ;]


Which 3 ? I knew only 2. Anyway Mihai Viteazu was just a conqueror anbd a king for 2 years, the forming was in 1872 or the like. When those 2 parts reunited which names' I dont know in English.

Quote (B4al @ Sat, Sep 8 2007, 08:08pm)
LOL. You got no clue what you`re talking about laugh.gif


That is the official view. The dacroman idea is NOT proven but it seems people try to make you think it is.

This post was edited by Gyuladze on Sep 8 2007 01:11pm
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