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Jun 26 2011 02:54pm
Ninetales Ability: Drought (Timid 184 HP / 104 SpD / 220 Spe) wide lens
Hypnosis
confusion ray
will o wisp
heat wave

Charizard Ability: Solar Power (Timid 252 SpA / 252 Spe / 4 Hp)
heat wave
air slash
solar beam
protect/substitute

Venusaur Ability: Chlorophyll (Modest 252 Def / 252 SpD / 4 Hp)
Solar beam
syntheses
growth
sludge bomb

Looking for a fourth preferably tank if you have any ideas.
Would like to hear if you see anything wrong with this party of if their is anything another team could exploit?
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Jun 30 2011 07:41am
Try a mix Blaziken over Charizard
Blaziken @ Rash/ mild nature
Ability Speed boost @ life orb/expert belt
Solar Beam
Fire Blast/Overheat
Hi jump kick/Stone Edge
Protect/Earthquake
6atk/252Satk/252Spe

Stone edge+earthquake gives more coverage while protect+hi jump kick ensures a speed boost and takes care of blissey/eviolite chansey

Terakion takes 50% less dmg from water moves thx to drought so he is a powerful choice bander/scarfer
Terakion @ adamant/jolly nature
Ability Justified @ choice band/scarf
Stone edge - stab+coverage with earthquake
close combat - stab and takes care of blissey/eviolite chansey
Earthquake
quick attack/X-scissor - priority move or rape grass pokemons
6hp/252atk/252spe

Tangrowth is a better tank than venusaur because of regenerator ability
Tangrowth @ Bold Nature
ability regenerator @ leftovers
Solarbeam - stab ataack
hiddenpower (fire) - takes care of steel types
leech seed - sleep powder+leech seed = awesome and forced switch
sleep powder
252hp/252def/6atk

if u want a chlorophyll user there is nasty plot Shiftry that does a better job than venusaur
Shiftry @ modest/timid nature
ability chlorophyll @ life orb/leftovers
solarbeam
dark pulse - available in gen 4 only through tm and second stab move worth using
hidden power (fire) - takes care of steel
nasty plot
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Jun 30 2011 11:35am
Quote (Minhtri008 @ Jun 30 2011 08:41am)
Try a mix Blaziken over Charizard
Blaziken @ Rash/ mild nature
Ability Speed boost @ life orb/expert belt
Solar Beam
Fire Blast/Overheat
Hi jump kick/Stone Edge
Protect/Earthquake
6atk/252Satk/252Spe

Stone edge+earthquake gives more coverage while protect+hi jump kick ensures a speed boost and takes care of blissey/eviolite chansey

Terakion takes 50% less dmg from water moves thx to drought so he is a powerful choice bander/scarfer
Terakion @ adamant/jolly nature
Ability Justified @ choice band/scarf
Stone edge - stab+coverage with earthquake
close combat - stab and takes care of blissey/eviolite chansey
Earthquake
quick attack/X-scissor - priority move or rape grass pokemons
6hp/252atk/252spe

Tangrowth is a better tank than venusaur because of regenerator ability
Tangrowth @ Bold Nature
ability regenerator @ leftovers
Solarbeam - stab ataack
hiddenpower (fire) - takes care of steel types
leech seed - sleep powder+leech seed = awesome and forced switch
sleep powder
252hp/252def/6atk

if u want a chlorophyll user there is nasty plot Shiftry that does a better job than venusaur
Shiftry @ modest/timid nature
ability chlorophyll @ life orb/leftovers
solarbeam
dark pulse - available in gen 4 only through tm and second stab move worth using
hidden power (fire) - takes care of steel
nasty plot


blaziken is uber lmao
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Jun 30 2011 11:46am
Quote (bymy @ Jun 30 2011 01:35pm)
blaziken is uber lmao


gen 5 is uber
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Jun 30 2011 01:18pm
Quote (Doyek @ Jun 30 2011 12:46pm)
gen 5 is uber


couch
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Jun 30 2011 01:40pm
Quote (bymy @ 30 Jun 2011 13:35)
blaziken is uber lmao


not in every pokemon league...smogon is gay cuz drizzle+swift swim is banned
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Jun 30 2011 01:50pm
Quote (Minhtri008 @ Jun 30 2011 08:41am)
Try a mix Blaziken over Charizard
Blaziken @ Rash/ mild nature
Ability Speed boost @ life orb/expert belt
Solar Beam
Fire Blast/Overheat
Hi jump kick/Stone Edge
Protect/Earthquake
6atk/252Satk/252Spe

Stone edge+earthquake gives more coverage while protect+hi jump kick ensures a speed boost and takes care of blissey/eviolite chansey

Terakion takes 50% less dmg from water moves thx to drought so he is a powerful choice bander/scarfer
Terakion @ adamant/jolly nature
Ability Justified @ choice band/scarf
Stone edge - stab+coverage with earthquake
close combat - stab and takes care of blissey/eviolite chansey
Earthquake
quick attack/X-scissor - priority move or rape grass pokemons
6hp/252atk/252spe

Tangrowth is a better tank than venusaur because of regenerator ability
Tangrowth @ Bold Nature
ability regenerator @ leftovers
Solarbeam - stab ataack
hiddenpower (fire) - takes care of steel types
leech seed - sleep powder+leech seed = awesome and forced switch
sleep powder
252hp/252def/6atk

if u want a chlorophyll user there is nasty plot Shiftry that does a better job than venusaur
Shiftry @ modest/timid nature
ability chlorophyll @ life orb/leftovers
solarbeam
dark pulse - available in gen 4 only through tm and second stab move worth using
hidden power (fire) - takes care of steel
nasty plot


I dont play with switching so regenerator doesnt tickle my fancy and i want a character that can basically out-speed anyone like venusaur. Also shiftry I feel has to many weaknesses and is less of a tank then venusaur while remaining the same speed at 284, also he has a lower special attack until you get the nasty plot off but with so many weaknesses to common things I dont believe he would live that long while growth in sunlight doubles its effects giving a +2 boost to attack and SpA. Im sure I want venusaur, charizard is up for question but the main problem I have with Venusaur is that his stab psn move is only good against grass which ill have plenty of fire moves for. Thinking of switching it for toxic or maybe earthquake because charizard is flying and my 4th pokemon will be bronzong double screener w/ levitate. Also Terakion is a legendary and I dont use those.
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Jun 30 2011 02:12pm
Quote (fastball26 @ Jun 30 2011 03:50pm)
I dont play with switching so regenerator doesnt tickle my fancy and i want a character that can basically out-speed anyone like venusaur.  Also shiftry I feel has to many weaknesses and is less of a tank then venusaur while remaining the same speed at 284, also he has a lower special attack until you get the nasty plot off but with so many weaknesses to common things I dont believe he would live that long while growth in sunlight doubles its effects giving a +2 boost to attack and SpA.  Im sure I want venusaur, charizard is up for question but the main problem I have with Venusaur is that his stab psn move is only good against grass which ill have plenty of fire moves for.  Thinking of switching it for toxic or maybe earthquake because charizard is flying and my 4th pokemon will be bronzong double screener w/ levitate.  Also Terakion is a legendary and I dont use those.


the fuck?


stopped reading there lol
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Jun 30 2011 02:18pm
Quote (fastball26 @ 30 Jun 2011 15:50)
I dont play with switching so regenerator doesnt tickle my fancy and i want a character that can basically out-speed anyone like venusaur.  Also shiftry I feel has to many weaknesses and is less of a tank then venusaur while remaining the same speed at 284, also he has a lower special attack until you get the nasty plot off but with so many weaknesses to common things I dont believe he would live that long while growth in sunlight doubles its effects giving a +2 boost to attack and SpA.  Im sure I want venusaur, charizard is up for question but the main problem I have with Venusaur is that his stab psn move is only good against grass which ill have plenty of fire moves for.  Thinking of switching it for toxic or maybe earthquake because charizard is flying and my 4th pokemon will be bronzong double screener w/ levitate.  Also Terakion is a legendary and I dont use those.


Charizard loses 50% hp to stealth rock when it switches out
and shiftry = a sweeper and most sweepers are frail
also ur venusaur is completely walled/countered by crobat/ferrothorn/toxicroak...
Bronzong gets torched under the sun cuz 1.5x boost under the sun so instead get a support espeon that can set up screens and benefit from the drought with morning sun
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Jun 30 2011 03:54pm
Quote (Minhtri008 @ Jun 30 2011 03:18pm)
Charizard loses 50% hp to stealth rock when it switches out
and shiftry = a sweeper and most sweepers are frail
also ur venusaur is completely walled/countered by crobat/ferrothorn/toxicroak...
Bronzong gets torched under the sun cuz 1.5x boost under the sun so instead get a support espeon that can set up screens and benefit from the drought with morning sun


this is for double battles so im having ninetale up for support so those three will wall venusaur but not ninetales w/ heatwave.
What i am going to start with is ninetales/bronzong, im going to give ninetales protect then going to have a bronzong put up both walls maybe a earthquake in between and when im all finished an explosion for a free switch with venusaur for a stab solarbeam. Also the reason i want venusaur instead of shiftry is because i wanna use him to actually take a hit so i can synthesis 3/4 health back instantly so while they will have to focus both attacks on venusaur to kill him.
I really doubt with 1 attack anyone can kill a venusaur with a light screen up with his fairly good special def. Idk though I have not crunched the numbers.
Charizard Im up to change but I truly believe venusaur is the best option and im debating between giving him earthquake to take care of any slower fire/ice types. Maybe make him neutral then and with a growth his attack and spa gets doubled for a mixed sweeper.
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