4 HP / 252 Attack / 252 Speed
Jolly
Iron Head / ThunderPunch / Ice Punch / Trick

It's always nice to have back-up. There's also a small chance that the Gyarados has Bounce, so you never know, haha.

Well, vs. a Roserade lead, you'd have to play very smart. I can see you playing it out like this, though..

Cowthang sent out Hippowdon!
XXX sent out Roserade!

Roserade used Toxic Spikes!
Cowthang switched in Salamence!
Roserade took 6% from sandstorm

Roserade either switches out, or gets OHKO'd by Fire Blast because sand storm would negate his Focus Sash. If he switches, it's very prominent that he could still get another layer up late-game. Be careful with that.

This post was edited by Ugg on Aug 23 2009 12:39pm

haha, Bounce is such an awesome move

Lmao I just saw Kingdra can learn it too

that's cool

Also, HP Ice on Celebi may get me walled by Steels, + I'm going to use Offensive Celebi as Ugg suggested, so I don't think i'll be taking hits from any Dragon-types

Edit: yeah I just saw you put the Roserade scenario , I also have Lum Berry on Hippowdon anyway, so if he sleeps me I can put Rocks up or Roar him out right away, or if he kills me I switch in the appropirate counter.

This post was edited by Cowthang on Aug 23 2009 12:41pm

I liked the Trick/Iron Head/ TPunch and IPunch moveset on Jirachi

I see.

If Toxic Spikes prove a problem, you could replace Suicune with a Starmie for Rapid Spin.

;O Or Tentacruel as Tenta has sexy SP Def. And then use Tenta as a Toxic Spiker of your own

This could work, too.

I use a Tspike/Rapid Spin tentacruel He's so sexy. His name is "Campy"

I'll play with it for the moment, I can always make a switch if I do begin to find problems with Toxic Spikes

though I haven't seen them in quite some time, probably the last time was when I was using a Tenetacruel of my own

I HATE getting EQ's with Tenta D: It's like OTEHFAWK

haha yeah

but at least Heatran's Earth Power can still be pewpew'd by Surf anyway