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Jun 5 2009 04:01pm
Quote (Toshster @ Fri, Jun 5 2009, 03:53pm)
I bet you didn't know there is alot of potential in ANY character you choose to put time into.
Just some characters have more.
Yoshi has very little potential that's all.
All characters can jump while shielding, Yoshi can't.
Yoshi has shield start up lag.
Yoshi has just a double jump for recovery.
All the egg does is stall really, I've only seen once or twice where the egg has lifted someone up after using the double jump.
Yoshis side B egg roll, has horrible priority.
There isn't one attack in the game that won't stop the egg.


And what potential do the characters under yoshi have?

Yoshi's recovery > all tether recoveries
Yoshi's airs all have good priority, and are all usable. When has sideb ever been a determining factor on how good a character is? Its usable and can throw off the opponent, and isn't as bad as you make it sound.

Ganon will always fail, he has no potential vs good players, period. Link will fall to anyone who knows how to throw him off stage. Captain falcon I don't see as that bad i still consider Yoshi better, and Samus has virtually no kill moves.

Curious, how is something that gives mindgames and sets up consecutive attacks not "that good", especially when he's the only one to have it
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Jun 5 2009 04:03pm
Quote (Twinky @ Fri, Jun 5 2009, 04:01pm)
And what potential do the characters under yoshi have?

Yoshi's recovery > all tether recoveries
Yoshi's airs all have good priority, and are all usable. When has sideb ever been a determining factor on how good a character is? Its usable and can throw off the opponent, and isn't as bad as you make it sound.

Ganon will always fail, he has no potential vs good players, period. Link will fall to anyone who knows how to throw him off stage. Captain falcon I don't see as that bad i still consider Yoshi better, and Samus has virtually no kill moves.

Curious, how is something that gives mindgames and sets up consecutive attacks not "that good", especially when he's the only one to have it


Sets up consecutive attacks? What DR are you talking about?

Mindgames aren't that hard to find. It's good for a low tier characer, but it's not something that's going to get him very far. It hasn't been doing him much good.

I never said Yoshi was bad.

This post was edited by Ugg on Jun 5 2009 04:03pm
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Jun 5 2009 04:07pm
Quote (Ugg @ Fri, Jun 5 2009, 04:03pm)
Sets up consecutive attacks? What DR are you talking about?

Mindgames aren't that hard to find. It's good for a low tier characer, but it's not something that's going to get him very far. It hasn't been doing him much good.

I never said Yoshi was bad.


Dragonic reverse, which at low percents can chain fair/fsmash together, amungst other things. All depends on opponents DI

I know you didn't say he was bad :3

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Quote (Twinky @ Fri, Jun 5 2009, 03:01pm)
And what potential do the characters under yoshi have?

Yoshi's recovery > all tether recoveries
Yoshi's airs all have good priority, and are all usable. When has sideb ever been a determining factor on how good a character is? Its usable and can throw off the opponent, and isn't as bad as you make it sound.

Ganon will always fail, he has no potential vs good players, period. Link will fall to anyone who knows how to throw him off stage. Captain falcon I don't see as that bad i still consider Yoshi better, and Samus has virtually no kill moves.

Curious, how is something that gives mindgames and sets up consecutive attacks not "that good", especially when he's the only one to have it


I never said Ganon, Link, Samus or Captain Falcon were good.
Ganon is fun as hell, and Toon Links tether is pretty good.
ZZS tether is good, Links isn't to bad (for link :P) but Yoshi is still pretty bad.
And Air on Air moves doesn't count priority, only range. And his side b, isn't usable and can't throw off any one decent.
For one, it takes a while to get going so they can shield, dodge or jump or even just hit it.
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Quote (Twinky @ Fri, Jun 5 2009, 04:07pm)
Dragonic reverse, which at low percents can chain fair/fsmash together, amungst other things. All depends on opponents DI

I know you didn't say he was bad :3


I know, but you're never going to chain many on good players. Maybe once or twice.

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Jun 5 2009 04:11pm
Quote (Toshster @ Fri, Jun 5 2009, 04:07pm)
I never said Ganon, Link, Samus or Captain Falcon were good.
Ganon is fun as hell, and Toon Links tether is pretty good.
ZZS tether is good, Links isn't to bad (for link :P) but Yoshi is still pretty bad.
And Air on Air moves doesn't count priority, only range. And his side b, isn't usable and can't throw off any one decent.
For one, it takes a while to get going so they can shield, dodge or jump or even just hit it.


Then wheres you're problem with Yoshi's Tier list spot :huh:
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Jun 5 2009 04:12pm
Quote (Twinky @ Fri, Jun 5 2009, 03:11pm)
Then wheres you're problem with Yoshi's Tier list spot :huh:


That he shouldn't be that high.
He's really not all that great.
I would sooner see Captain Falcon and Jigglypuff over him.


Meta Knight
Snake
Wario
Falco
Diddy Kong
King Dedede


Marth
Mr. Game & Watch
Pikachu
Olimar
Ice Climbers
R.O.B.
Kirby


Lucario
Zero Suit Samus
Toon Link
Pit
Donkey Kong


Peach
Luigi
Fox
Wolf
Sonic
Sheik


Bowser
Zelda
Pokémon Trainer
Ike


Lucas
Mario
Ness
Yoshi
Samus


Jigglypuff
Captain Falcon
Link
Ganondorf

Tier list for reference.

This post was edited by Toshster on Jun 5 2009 04:13pm
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Jun 5 2009 04:14pm
It's not even so much that he's higher than I think he should be.
It's the fact he actually went up a spot.
That tweaks me.
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Jun 5 2009 04:15pm
Anyway, you guys should check out the video in my profile to see why Ganondorf is on the top (if it's flipped upside down. :D )

It makes me want to play with items.
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Jun 5 2009 04:16pm
Quote (Ugg @ Fri, Jun 5 2009, 03:15pm)
Anyway, you guys should check out the video in my profile to see why Ganondorf is on the top (if it's flipped upside down. :D )

It makes me want to play with items.


GANON IS MY BOYFRIEND :wub:
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