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Sep 5 2009 10:00pm
Quote (Toshster @ Sat, 5 Sep 2009, 23:47)
If you make Ninjask a Swords Dance baton passer, give Tyranitar Life Orb or Expert Belt. If you can pass a Speed boost and two and a Swords Dance, you'll have a bigger boost than a Choice band plus you can use all of your moves.


I like that plan :D!
also ... the rest is fine?

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Sep 5 2009 10:09pm
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I like that plan :D!
also ... the rest is fine?


For the most part. Have you considered Taunt on Aerodactyl? =o Alot of times people don't even both attacking, and they just set up. Taunt RAPES that considering Aerodactyl's speed.
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Quote (Toshster @ Sun, 6 Sep 2009, 00:09)
For the most part. Have you considered Taunt on Aerodactyl? =o Alot of times people don't even both attacking, and they just set up. Taunt RAPES that considering Aerodactyl's speed.


I'll try it out i guess ... but areodactyl has poor def so i tought taunt was dumb >.<

Quote (Ugg @ Sun, 6 Sep 2009, 00:56)
His defenses are shit poor, hence Focus Sash. Taunt is the crux of lead Aerodactyl, he's the fastest Taunt in standard play that can set up Stealth Rock, and he's the second fastest Taunter in standard play, barring Electrode. Taunt allows him to stop other leads from setting up Stealth Rock, while also setting up your own. Replace Roar with it.

I'll give you my full rate later.


ok!

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I'll try it out i guess ... but areodactyl has poor def so i tought taunt was dumb >.<


His defenses are shit poor, hence Focus Sash. Taunt is the crux of lead Aerodactyl, he's the fastest Taunt in standard play that can set up Stealth Rock, and he's the second fastest Taunter in standard play, barring Electrode. Taunt allows him to stop other leads from setting up Stealth Rock, while also setting up your own. Replace Roar with it.

I'll give you my full rate later.

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Quote (Minhtri008 @ Sat, Sep 5 2009, 10:54pm)
I'll try it out i guess ... but areodactyl has poor def so i tought taunt was dumb >.<



ok!


TOLD YA!! NYA NYA :lol:
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Quote (Toshster @ Sun, 6 Sep 2009, 01:57)
TOLD YA!! NYA NYA :lol:


Ok ... euh I got taunt now ... vs 1 of my friend my aerodactyl got pwnt by 2 bullet punches from lead metagross lol ... i didnt even set up SR ...
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Quote (Minhtri008 @ Sun, Sep 6 2009, 01:42pm)
Ok ... euh I got taunt now ... vs 1 of my friend my aerodactyl got pwnt by 2 bullet punches from lead metagross lol ... i didnt even set up SR ...


Well some people kinda predict Taunt on an Aero, so there just going to attack you sometimes, as opposed to setting up their own SR.
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Sep 6 2009 09:21am
Aero isn't a great lead these days. His Bullet Punch Weakness and lack of ability to beat Pert or Lead Rachi mean that most common leads will beat him today.

I also feel there is a lack of synergy - Passing curses to donphan seems like a bad idea to me, I prefer a receiver like Hariyama (Especially since Donphan only has 2 attacking moves.)

Also, curse will be boosting Donphans already substantial Physical Defense, and ignoring his subpar special defense.

I agree with the point about not passing to a CB user, though.
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Quote (BobiusMaximus @ Sun, Sep 6 2009, 09:21am)
Aero isn't a great lead these days. His Bullet Punch Weakness and lack of ability to beat Pert or Lead Rachi mean that most common leads will beat him today.

I also feel there is a lack of synergy - Passing curses to donphan seems like a bad idea to me, I prefer a receiver like Hariyama (Especially since Donphan only has 2 attacking moves.)

Also, curse will be boosting Donphans already substantial Physical Defense, and ignoring his subpar special defense.

I agree with the point about not passing to a CB user, though.


Do you prefer using Pure Speed passer ,or a Speed/Swords Dance passer? On Ninjask ofc.

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Quote (Minhtri008 @ Sun, Sep 6 2009, 02:41am)
Posting 1 of my team that I like alot and works pretty well :D

1.
Pokemon: Aerodactyl
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Speed
Moves: Stealth Rock / Rock Slide / Earthquake / Roar
Item: Focus Sash

- Common suicide lead ...

The other pokemons are in no particular order

2.
Pokemon: Ninjask
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Speed
Moves: Substitute / Protect / Baton Pass / X-scissor
Item: Leftovers

- Gives speed to my choice banded pokemon for a fast kill

3.
Pokemon: Tyranitar
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 180 HP / 252 Atk / 76 Speed
Moves: Earthquake / Crunch / Rock Slide / Aqua Tail
Item: Choice Band

- Goes in after speed boost by Ninjask then go for an quick and fast kill

4.
Pokemon:Starmie
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Speed
Moves: Surf / Thunderbolt / Ice Beam / Psychic
Item: Choice Specs

- Revenge killer

5.
Pokemon: Umbreon
Nature: Impish
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpD
Moves: Baton Pass / Curse / Payback / Wish
Item: Leftovers

- Mix tank and curse passer to Donphan

6.
Pokemon: Donphan
Nature: Impish
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Moves: Ice Shard / Earthquake / Roar / Rapid Spin
Item: Leftovers

- Rapid spinner, Shuffler, Physical tank ... and maybe sweeper if it gets enough curse boost from umbreon

Give me your IMOs and maybe ideas to make this team better :D ... so far its been awesome!

Questions :
Should I make my Ninjask a dedicated Baton passer? ... wich means I take off X-scissor and add Sword Dance


Haha, I don't know how many times I've mentioned this, but, your team is kinda Scarf Heracross weak, he takes out about 4 of your pokes.

And I would agree that Donphan isn't the best poke to Curse pass too, maybe to the likes of Snorlax or even to your Tyranitar would make more of it, if you remove the CB.

This post was edited by Cowthang on Sep 6 2009 12:31pm
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