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mmmmm i can definintly seee why you like this tier list since you main metaknight.

tier lists are NOT offical...
if a group of people the same level continually beat metaknight with "lessser characters" then accordingi to tier lists, their character moves up top. CORRECT?
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Jan 28 2009 05:17pm
Quote (stupidkid282 @ Wed, Jan 28 2009, 04:15pm)
mmmmm i can definintly seee why you like this tier list since you main metaknight.

tier lists are NOT offical...
if a group of people the same level continually beat metaknight with "lessser characters" then accordingi to tier lists, their character moves up top. CORRECT?


Lol, I don't main metaknight. I don't USE metaknight. Ask ANYONE I've ever played, they'll say they've never see me use metaknight. I actually use Captain Falcon.
They are official among the brawl community. They are not nintendo-official, but since they are never going to make a tier list, it's as official as one can get.
No, not correct, since that will never happen if they are of the same skill level. The MK will come out on top vs. a lower tiered character MOST of the time. He won't ALWAYS win if they are of equal skill level. The lower-tiered character still has a chance.
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Jan 28 2009 05:18pm
Quote (stupidkid282 @ Wed, Jan 28 2009, 06:15pm)
mmmmm i can definintly seee why you like this tier list since you main metaknight.

tier lists are NOT offical...
if a group of people the same level continually beat metaknight with "lessser characters"  then accordingi to tier lists, their character moves up top.  CORRECT?


Yes. I would assume.It would have to be hundred(s) of matches. THe more data the more accurate

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This post was edited by FetusEater on Jan 28 2009 05:20pm
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Jan 28 2009 05:19pm
you just cant accept that people on the same skill level can beat the "favorable character" with a "lesser character"


btw Nice metaknight sig

This post was edited by stupidkid282 on Jan 28 2009 05:21pm
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you just cant accept that people on the same skill level can beat the "favorable character" with a "lesser character"


You've lost this argument. You're just throwing out random stuff now.
They CAN beat it, but THE FACT IS that the higher-tiered character will generally beat the lower tiered more at the same skill level.
My sig doesn't matter. I can throw on my pikachu sig, my falco sig, my kirby sig, my mario sig, etc.
It just matches my hot avatar and orb.

This post was edited by Ugg on Jan 28 2009 05:25pm
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You've lost this argument. You're just throwing out random stuff now.


you did that a long time ago.... there's no point in arguing since AGAIN you cant accept the fact that two equal players can win against metaknight with lesser characters


game and watch vs metaknight......who wins? to you metaknight, to me...its totally up in the air
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you did that a long time ago.... there's no point in arguing since AGAIN you cant accept the fact that two equal players can win against metaknight with lesser characters


game and watch vs metaknight......who wins? to you metaknight, to me...its totally up in the air


It depends on the match up, but generally, the metaknight will win because the match up is about 60:40 in metaknight's favor. But the G&W is still entirely capable of winning. I can't accept it because it's not a FACT. I've said numerous times they CAN WIN. But it is harder for them to win, and it's easier for the metaknight. I'm not here to be hostile or anything.
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Jan 28 2009 05:27pm
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It depends on the match up, but generally, the metaknight will win because the match up is about 60:40 in metaknight's favor. But the G&W is still entirely capable of winning. I can't accept it because it's not a FACT. I've said numerous times they CAN WIN. But it is harder for them to win, and it's easier for the metaknight. I'm not here to be hostile or anything.


all tiers do is make the kids who lose against "higher characters" have an excuse to sucking... All they do is create an illusion that one character is better than another.. THEY ARENT its up to the PLAYER

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Jan 28 2009 05:29pm
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all tiers do is make the kids who lose against "higher characters" have an excuse to sucking... All they do is create an illusion that one character is better than another.. THEY ARENT its up to the PLAYER


Characters are made up by their moves. So all moves have to be equal in order for characters to be equal, right?
Lets take G&W's upsmash, and Luigi's upsmash.
G&W's comes out at about the same speed, and at the latest kills at around 90% uncharged, while luigi's kills atleast about 150%. Moves can't be the same, so ergo characters aren't magically going to be the same either. Recovery moves/jumps, aswell. You can't even begin to tell me that Captain Falcon's recovery is as good as say.. R.O.B's.

This post was edited by Ugg on Jan 28 2009 05:29pm
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Characters are made up by their moves. So all moves have to be equal in order for characters to be equal, right?
Lets take G&W's upsmash, and Luigi's upsmash.
G&W's comes out at about the same speed, and at the latest kills at around 90% uncharged, while luigi's kills atleast about 150%. Moves can't be the same, so ergo characters aren't magically going to be the same either. Recovery moves/jumps, aswell. You can't even begin to tell me that Captain Falcon's recovery is as good as say.. R.O.B's.


so? every character has their ups and downs....

any player can harness them
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