ah, suppose could work

or I'll just leave T.Spikes alltogether maybe

Spikes > Tspikes =3
Use a stall/toxic pokemon for poison.

well I meant just leave any kind of spikes

cba switching pokes just to get 'em up

I don't nescessarily need them I just realised, I just have to take out certain threats then it's grand

Spikes is a good way to take down some set up killers, like SD Lucario and stuff. Or weaken common threats, or even guarantee a kill on an already weakened pokemon.

SR is good enough for me, I've got the threats that I need to cover, mostly covered. So I think I can leave it,

I'll see how it goes anyway

This post was edited by Cowthang on Nov 1 2009 11:34am

Metronome is the way to go.

so I've heard...

Man, I had an Ambipom metronome lead, and I used Metronome on a Forretress and got Flamethrower, OHKO.

lmao

GG

Metronome is awesome. I hit a Zapdos that used Fly with a critical hit Dynamic Punch (cuz of No Guard ) and it confused it, then he died to confusion.