hah, im a framer and over time that saying is true bt you never put a wall up thats not level

lol
i do steel framing and drywall and shit its pretty easy to put up a striaght wall with steel framing you shoot the track in the ground then put the studs in and its pretty much straight lol
the older houses n shit getting renos i expect it to be off and not square but man when its a brand new house i just wanna smash the framers with a hammer
some buliders want us to fix it or the painter bitches n its our drywall thats off ... they always blame the drywallers becasue they got a shit framer lol we can only fix shitty framing so much without actually framing

This post was edited by dragoneth on Jan 31 2014 10:33pm

oh ya sometimes you get into some funky shit and have to rely onthe drywallers to hide it ive done metal studs before as well but its much slower going

slower going? pfft steel framing is way faster and the steel is cheaper then wood lol
how do u do it? we lay it out then set up the track and use a hilti to shoot it into place then we chopsaw the studs if its farly even heightl for the wall and then just throw them in and use a cordless to put in kelly screws
if the walls up and down we usualy measure then snip n it gets a bit slower
i dont like steel framing tho if im boarding it cuz sometimes the screws dont grab no matter what we use or they grab too good and go to deep lol

This post was edited by dragoneth on Jan 31 2014 10:49pm

i did itfor a few months when i was remodeling a CEO's office back in like 2007?ish. we snipped the sides and scored it with a blade and bent it over andbroke them

oh wow you did it oldschool as fuck eh no wonder it took u so long
im usually the one cutting them and if im using the chopsaw i rig up a thing to just lean them against it chop n carry them over ... cut 2 at a time in like 10 secs
when were snip cutting them toh tis slow as fuck lol and i hate it cuz my wrist is fucked up after cutting like 3 its toast
i usualy work with another person or 2 too so it works out 1 lays it out shoots the track in i cut other guys throwin up the walls or i put the studs in after cutting like 20 then when its laid out i cut n other guy throwsem in
having a routine helps a lot too we were doing it p[retty steady for a bit we turned a big ass 3 floor building into an appartment building haha after that shits quicktime normally we just do a wall or 2 drywall or grid ceiling

we do cove now too we found a guy that makes like styrofoam pre coated pre molded cove we just put it up and do touch ups here and there he goes around measures all the corners and shit and makes each specific so even out of swuare houses arent so bad like the old cove lol

This post was edited by dragoneth on Jan 31 2014 11:23pm

very interesting, we just sling wood lol. this winter has been killing my pay checks though omfg. since we frame we are out in the elements and - degree weathrr= no work and the windtoo makes it ridiculous

i know the feelin
my uncle prefers to get fresh new houses but in the winter not to many get built haha so he usually gets some small renovations and grid ceiling jobs
get the odd big job where do a lot of steel framing and shit and usually bring in a few other guys to board and tape with us ... usually gives us a few good weeks of work so we dont complain cuz while were doin that lotta times other guys are sitting at home or working like 3 days a week
however ihavnt worked in like 3 months im hurtin as fuck for cash right now lol i owe my sis like $150 and i owe my rents like $40 hahaha my bank acc is prob negative right now too
if iwasnt afraid of heights id prob have like 2-3 solid weeks building drywal lboxes but its like 2 or 3 scaffolds high lol i dont work to good up that high ^^

This post was edited by dragoneth on Feb 1 2014 12:55am

weird, i work for my unce..... ya i dont work roof days cus i dont do heights myself. tornado ripped through herein november and took out a whole subdivision we built 10 years ago and it made national news so we have a lot to do. i just had a kid and my wife wasnt able to work for a while too so im like 1k behind in rent lol but she goes back monday thank god

not sure why i am posting pic he

my guys 35th bday

where is waldo



This post was edited by Doom0277 on Feb 1 2014 01:45am