I loved battlefield 3 to death
I hated battlefield 4 due to shitty hit detection, frame rate, and connection issues

How is this one?

prob worse being its an entire different developer using the frostbite engine

No answer?
Same as beta?

From the beta i can say its better gameplay wise
But no weapons .. Thats only reason why i dont get it

I've watched some streams of it. Looks meh. Single player is like CSI Miami crap as the other person said. Multiplayer looks like BF mixed with Payday 1/2 with the "cops and robbers" theme.

Pretty sure that's exactly what they were going for

I guess it's better than the usual military theme.

i do gotta say hardwired is a fun as fuck game mode

This

Game is fun as fuck

Saving my money for Bloodborne on Tuesday. That game is going to be fucking awesome.