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Mar 21 2010 12:34pm
Quote (dragoneth @ Mar 21 2010 06:08pm)
insulting me saying im mis informed becasue you act like i dont understand what your saying when i understand 100%
when you change your main point ex."nobody catches flags becasue they are worthless now" to "ticket drain is slower " and argue that im saying its not obviously u will take it as me being dumb cuz ur triyng to ignore the fact u changed ur main thesis
i was just saying the gameplay hasnt really changed ppl still capture flags and i rarely ever see a team with no flags win they are usually getting dominated but you just reply with a wall of text trying insult me over the internet
as for the -FACT... just cuz u say its fact doesnt mean it really is.. nice try tho
stop spamming my thread


When did I say nobody catches flags???? I've brought this up so many times. What is actually true is that I said capturing flags is almost worthless. Im saying ticket drain is slower because that is the biggest reason behind flags holding much less importance now, than say on other BF games. Im not changing arguments LOL, Im giving a statement out and backing it up with reasoning. Ask yourself; why are you capturing flags? The reason is likely to be; for points, for extra spawn zone, vehicles, because they are simply there. In other BF games, why do you capture flags? If you don't you will LOSE because of heavy ticket bleed, but also for spawn zones, vehicles, etc.

You've never seen a team with less flags win, whilst I have, but that is not important. What is important is that with the majority of other BF games such as BF1942, BF1943, BC1, BC2124, if you fail to hold a majority of flags you will lose even if you killed much more than you died. On BC2 ticket bleeding is so slow, so theoretically and also in practice, you can now win whether or not you had most of the flags. Im saying you do not fully understand because you don't seem to understand the words "important" or "importance".

How is it not a fact your BF experience is pretty limited. You've played 1944 (lol) for a few months and you did not like BC1 conquest so you most likely did not invest too many hours into conquest. You may be experienced with modern combat, I never denied that, but are you experienced with the BF series as a whole? Nah, nice try trying to deny it.

Google up or anything you want, for a majority agreed stance that ticket bleeding has NOT been lowered in BC2 conquest. Infact you don't even need to do that, if you had actually played BF games properly, you would realise ticket bleeding is significantly slower now in BC2. Its a fact, not just said by me, but by an entire BF community. Again nice try, trying to dispel that.

At least Im spamming this thread with actual knowledge, unlike you who is just spamming based of a lack of understanding of BF games.

This post was edited by Sencha on Mar 21 2010 12:39pm
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Mar 21 2010 12:49pm
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When did I say nobody catches flags???? I've brought this up so many times. What is actually true is that I said capturing flags is almost worthless. Im saying ticket drain is slower because that is the biggest reason behind flags holding much less importance now, than say on other BF games. Im not changing arguments LOL, Im giving a statement out and backing it up with reasoning. Ask yourself; why are you capturing flags? The reason is likely to be; for points, for extra spawn zone, vehicles, because they are simply there. In other BF games, why do you capture flags? If you don't you will LOSE because of heavy ticket bleed, but also for spawn zones, vehicles, etc.

You've never seen a team with less flags win, whilst I have, but that is not important. What is important is that with the majority of other BF games such as BF1942, BF1943, BC1, BC2124, if you fail to hold a majority of flags you will lose even if you killed much more than you died. On BC2 ticket bleeding is so slow, so theoretically and also in practice, you can now win whether or not you had most of the flags. Im saying you do not fully understand because you don't seem to understand the words "important" or "importance".

How is it not a fact your BF experience is pretty limited. You've played 1944 (lol) for a few months and you did not like BC1 conquest so you most likely did not invest too many hours into conquest. You may be experienced with modern combat, I never denied that, but are you experienced with the BF series as a whole? Nah, nice try trying to deny it.

Google up or anything you want, for a majority agreed stance that ticket bleeding has NOT been lowered in BC2 conquest. Infact you don't even need to do that, if you had actually played BF games properly, you would realise ticket bleeding is significantly slower now in BC2. Its a fact, not just said by me, but by an entire BF community. Again nice try, trying to dispel that.

At least Im spamming this thread with actual knowledge, unlike you who is just spamming based of a lack of understanding of BF games.



Personally Im a bit disappointed they have changed the formula a bit in conquest, so that there is actually hardly any importance on capturing flags and much greater emphasis on killing. It plays more like a team death match game...but with a couple of flags/different spawn points.

then i believe u siad something like u and ur friend were playing n ur like "lets go catch a flag" and he was like "no its pointless" but im not going to go look for it
and i got the year wrong OMG big whoop dude i played so many shooters within those years and it was years ago
i said i rarely see a team with less flags win.. once again nice translation
and bc1 didnt even have conquest mode for how long? to start it only had rush so i played mostly rush
and im not denying the ticket bleeding is slower i dont have to try and dispell anything
and yeah actual knowledge definatly comes form video games...
as i said before stop spamming dude
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Quote (dragoneth @ Mar 21 2010 06:49pm)
Personally Im a bit disappointed they have changed the formula a bit in conquest, so that there is actually hardly any importance on capturing flags and much greater emphasis on killing. It plays more like a team death match game...but with a couple of flags/different spawn points.

then i believe u siad something like u and ur friend were playing n ur like "lets go catch a flag" and he was like "no its pointless" but im not going to go look for it
and i got the year wrong OMG big whoop dude  i played so many  shooters  within those years  and it was years ago
i said i rarely see a team with less flags win.. once again  nice translation
and bc1  didnt even have conquest mode for how long? to start it only had rush so i played mostly rush
and im not denying the ticket bleeding is slower  i dont have to try and dispell anything
and yeah actual knowledge definatly comes form video games...
as i said before stop spamming dude


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.....

""lets go catch a flag" and he was like "no its pointless" but im not going to go look for it" That was a random quote from the EA forums!!!!!!!!!!!! LEARN TO READ FOR GODS SAKE. Go back a few pages immediately, click the threads I linked and see for yourself. The first half of my quote you have given is at the top of page 19. The second half you pointed out is not there! No fucking wonder you've even had an argument upto now!

Look infact, Ill give you the thread again since you are probably too retarded to find page 19:
http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/444924.page
scroll to the bottom

You mostly played rush on BC1 so why are you adding that to your list of conquest experience across BF games.... O____o

Lol and wtf at your second to last line? Yes I am fairly knowledgable about conquest because I've played so many BF games in the past....its definitely better than your conquest knowledge which is made up of BC1 rush lol.

Im not and never have denied people are capturing flags. Im saying the importance of doing so has greatly decreased so now killing is a much greater priority than capturing flags if you want to win. Compare this to other BF conquest games and the priorities are infact quite similiar, but actually there is actually a bigger priority to capture flags if you want to win the round/match. There are also generally fewer flags and smaller maps.

I don't see many teams winning when they have less flags on other BF games excluding BC2 O_O What is wrong with that translation lol?

How has this changed gameplay for people like me and non-noobs in BC2. I now take my time over capturing flags, I am on the lookout for people much more since they contribute to ticket loss much greater. There are smaller maps and fewer flags so there is no longer any need for the smallest strategy over which flags to prioritise capturing, and what routes to take.

I'll stop spamming when you finally realise how wrong you are and how much you have misread or misunderstood this whole argument.

This post was edited by Sencha on Mar 21 2010 01:27pm
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Mar 21 2010 02:27pm
Sencha is right,capturing flags means absolutely nothing in BC2 anymore in terms of winning the game.The only real advantage it has,is for campers who can sit at 1 flag and wait for the other team to rush in and try and recapture that flag,because even tho capturing flags dont matter in the grand scheme of things,its still the object of the mode in some ways,and it gives u more points.And the maps in BC2 are tiny compared to 1943 or BC1...well conquest anyway,the rush maps are still huge.I remember playing BC1 conquest and it seemed like it took 5 minutes to run across the whole map,and with BC2 u can run from A to C in like 30 seconds,the maps are just more elevated to make it seem bigger then it is.
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Mar 21 2010 03:19pm
Look there are 3 lines of "main" arguments I see from this:

I stated the mechanics in BC2's conquest has changed from other BF conquest modes. You claimed conquest has always been the same, yet later on you reluctantly agree ticket bleeding is slower, there are fewer flags and maps are smaller. Im confused why we are even arguing this point anymore.

You claim I said nobody ever captures flags, when actually you were recalling a random quote from the EA forum I linked. All I said was that the importance of capturing flags is miles lower than in other BF games because of ticket bleeding being so low now.

Were arguing about the history of conquest based on our experience of BF games. You've played BF:MC, a few months of 1943 and mostly played RUSH on BC1. I call that pretty limited experience, especially conquest experience.
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Mar 21 2010 03:21pm
Holy fuckin Walls of Text batman


YA CONQUEST
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Mar 21 2010 03:23pm
Quote (Twizted_jay @ Mar 21 2010 03:21pm)
Holy fuckin Walls of Text batman


YA CONQUEST


i started it all by asking which game mode people prefer :P
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Mar 21 2010 03:24pm
Quote (Sencha @ Mar 21 2010 04:19pm)
Look there are 3 lines of "main" arguments I see from this:

I stated the mechanics in BC2's conquest has changed from other BF conquest modes. You claimed conquest has always been the same, yet later on you reluctantly agree ticket bleeding is slower, there are fewer flags and maps are smaller. Im confused why we are even arguing this point anymore.

You claim I said nobody ever captures flags, when actually you were recalling a random quote from the EA forum I linked. All I said was that the importance of capturing flags is miles lower than in other BF games because of ticket bleeding being so low now.

Were arguing about the history of conquest based on our experience of BF games. You've played BF:MC, a few months of 1943 and mostly played RUSH on BC1. I call that pretty limited experience, especially conquest experience.


tl;dr

Quote (gramkracka22 @ Mar 21 2010 04:23pm)
i started it all by asking which game mode people prefer :P


bastard :P
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Mar 21 2010 03:25pm
Quote (dragoneth @ Mar 21 2010 03:24pm)
tl;dr



bastard :P


lol how do u say tldr to that but not the other posts that are 10 times as long

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Mar 21 2010 03:26pm
Quote (gramkracka22 @ Mar 21 2010 09:23pm)
i started it all by asking which game mode people prefer :P


And I apparently started this particular argument by claiming I was slightly disappointed with BC2's conquest being different to past BF's conquest, backed up with my own personal experience and a global agreement regarding the changes, by the BF community.

Just a shame a complete retard was the first to pick up on this point, rather a logical and experienced BF player since it is actually a pretty interesting topic.

This post was edited by Sencha on Mar 21 2010 03:28pm
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