you can enter the covenant, get the miracle, change covenant

bingo

but the stronger one still requires rank one to use, but like i said in my edit, i think ill most likely just switch back and forth depending on whether or not i wanna dps or heal.

imo the stronger one isnt worth it, also you need gwyn soul for it

great lightning spear is strong enough

/e: oh read that wrong, well you're going to be doing coop anyway, so all you need is to do some coop in the sunbro covenant, or you can even be lucky and do some coop with a sunbro

its not that long when you get summoned a lot

This post was edited by Doyek on Jan 27 2012 09:32pm

whats the best bow for a faith/dex build, a +10 divine or +5 occult longbow, or maybe darkmoon bow+5?

bows are kinda weird

like fire and lightning bow will only do their elemental damage if you use the respective elemental arrow/bolt

like a fire crossbow is useless since there are no fire bolt, same for the lightning bow

so i dont know if its the same deal with the divine/occult bows

id say just upgrade either the composite bow +14/+15 or the avelyne +15 (so fucking good in pvp i tell u what)

i dont like the composite bow in this game, the range is so terrible
u have to aim way left of ur target when they arent even that far away.

ide rather have the extra range rather than the little bit of extra damage.

divine and occult make it so the weapon scales with dex/faith, and since im gonna have a good deal of both of those i thought one of those would have been the better choice.
idk, ill look around some more before i start upgrading.

i'd go for the darkmoon bow then

but like i said, im not sure the elemental damage applies to normal arrow
well im pretty sure it doesnt with lightning and fire, but im not sure about the scaling one (divine/occult and magic/enchanted)

anyway, i'd either go for the long bow (has better scaling) or the darkmoon bow (higher base damage but shitty scaling)

or you could just make both since gwyndolin soul isnt really that useful anyway


/e: but even with better scaling, i doubt a +5 occult long bow would do more damage than the darkmoon bow
and getting a +5 darkmoon bow is a loooot easier than getting a +5 occult long bow


/e: yup it is confirmed, darkmoon bow+5 will do a lot more damage @ 24str/24dex/48faith than the +5occult long bow

darkmoon bow+5: 423 (281/182)

occult long bow+5: 324 (165/159)

so yeah i think the choice is clear

This post was edited by Doyek on Jan 28 2012 12:17am

awesome, thanks for taking the time to look that up.
i guess ill farm the mats and upgrade it then.

i believe darkmoon bow also has the fastest "attack" speed, whereas you draw and release faster than a normal bow
but you can test that, so with that in mind, it's way more worth it if you can

mm maybe i should start a new character to co-op with you haha, what's a fun new build?

u should dude, i havent done an area with this character where there wasnt 2 other people with me.
this game is alot of fun when doing co-op.

i hope they make another game and make the main focus online play.
with the combat style they have, boss battles could be fucking epic.