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Feb 20 2018 04:07pm
Quote (Haseo @ Feb 20 2018 07:48am)
doesnt drive me to play it like tenkaichi 3 did


to be fair Tenkaichi 3 took relatively no skill in comparison, so you could achieve the experience desired without shelling out effort, it was more of a DBZ simulator, kinda like xenoverse, DBZF isn't supposed to be a simulator of the Dragonball experience, it's just marvel vs capcom reskinned as dragonball, it a competitive fighter, so it takes longer to reach the point where you would be in tenkaichi, this is natural, sticking with it or not is up to you. of course. maybe just not your kind of game
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Feb 20 2018 04:18pm
Quote (Sasori @ Feb 20 2018 06:05pm)
dark souls players usually end up liking fighting games once they reach a deeper understanding of them, dark souls is about reading patterns and mastering mechanics, fighting games are no different, but when you play with your buddy, who also doesn't know anything, how much you don't know about the games mechanics isn't immediately apparent, this is why alot of casual players get bored, they think "is this all there is too it?" it's not, guaranteed, thats what makes fighting games fun, is it's a deep rabbit hole. eventually when the game opens up more with your understanding, you'll hardly want to put it down, you'll eventually get too strong for your buddies, and you'll seek stronger opponents, much like in dark souls, you kill a boss, just to seek the next challenge.


Oh believe me, my buddy rips me to shreds, and I'm not awful with the mechanics, but definitely nowhere near Master level.
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Feb 20 2018 04:28pm
Quote (D_urRRR @ Feb 20 2018 04:18pm)
Oh believe me, my buddy rips me to shreds, and I'm not awful with the mechanics, but definitely nowhere near Master level.


not awful with mechanics at your level of how you understand them, you know how to make something happen on screen but don't really understand how to use that tool or why it exists effectively, i'll use mortal kombat as a good example, Tremor has a string, i think it's 2,1,2? i'm unsure exactly, but anyways this string is +2 on block, but it starts high, highs can be ducked, but part of the games mechanics is you can only duck highs when you aren't blocking (holding the block button in this case) so if you check them with a d1 or d3 to force them to guard, you can now attempt to jail with 212 and use the plus frames after it to mix between another d1/d3 or a throw, if the original d1/d3 hits them, the frame advantage is better than if they block it, technically if they block the d1 they could press their own d1 back in retaliation to stuff the startup frames of 212, but will they? because you could just as easily whiff punish that d1 attempt with 212 into db2+u which is a launcher, and tremor hurts, so most people will realize the situation and just take the block, but if you hit them with the d1, you can jail into 212 with NO fear, whatsoever. so what they should properly do, if they are good enough, is use half their stamina at that moment to backdash after blocking the original d1, if they are quick enough, they will recover to whiff punish 212, but if you have a feeling they will do this, you could run after the d1, to preemptively chase this. and then punish the backdash with 212 directly. this is literally how complicated just a small, minute, almost irrelevant due to how basic it is, situation can be when throughly explored, you will have to deal with this like 40 times a game against a tremor player, since this is a fundamental core of the characters offense.

This post was edited by Sasori on Feb 20 2018 04:29pm
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Feb 20 2018 05:18pm
i swear to god sasori if you use android 16/adult gohan/cell you lost my respect =\ jk
lmk when u wanna get smashed on
android18/teengohan/goku black my team
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Feb 20 2018 05:27pm
Quote (zero_yomama @ Feb 20 2018 05:18pm)
i swear to god sasori if you use android 16/adult gohan/cell you lost my respect =\ jk
lmk when u wanna get smashed on
android18/teengohan/goku black my team


that vid in op is me, lol that's my clip
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Feb 20 2018 05:31pm
Quote (Sasori @ Feb 20 2018 03:27pm)
that vid in op is me, lol that's my clip


ouch it is SMH
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Feb 20 2018 07:03pm
Quote (zero_yomama @ Feb 20 2018 07:31pm)
ouch it is SMH


Lol.
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