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Jul 15 2016 03:18pm
Quote (dragoneth @ Jul 15 2016 01:52pm)
im going to use my pc n get bf1 on pc fuck ps4


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Jul 15 2016 03:54pm
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no they really cant though you cant beat the combo of a mouse and keyboard with a controller ever
a mouse is simply too fast and accurate vs a controller analog the skill ceiling of mouse+keyboard will always be greater then controller ceiling

dont get me wrong you vcan get really good with a controller but somebody whos really good with a mouse n keyboard will shit on you
AA helps controller be almost equal to a m+k with out AA but a mouse with the same aim assist is insanely overpowered

idk if i d say its cheating but its definatley a major advantage which is pretty fuckin cheap
but like the sasori said any pro comp matches you would be banned for keyboarding ... so i guess it is cheating


Competitions don't work as an example because you want everything to be comparable against all players. It doesn't necessarily make it cheating.

But I don't believe the skill ceiling is different depending on the peripheral you are using.
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Jul 15 2016 04:46pm
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Competitions don't work as an example because you want everything to be comparable against all players. It doesn't necessarily make it cheating.

But I don't believe the skill ceiling is different depending on the peripheral you are using.


its pretty much fact that the analogs are simply not as precise as a mouse
maybe if its a garbage default dell mouse sure but any sort of gaming mouse will shit on controller

you can still get good with controller but if you were equally skilled with a mouse you would do better

i mean the fact is theres people who are choosing mice over the controller ... that should be enough proof


This post was edited by dragoneth on Jul 15 2016 04:47pm
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Jul 15 2016 05:09pm
oh man havent played bf in a very long time
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Quote (dragoneth @ Jul 15 2016 06:46pm)
its pretty much fact that the analogs are simply not as precise as a mouse
maybe if its a garbage default dell mouse sure but any sort of gaming mouse will shit on controller

you can still get good with controller but if you were equally skilled with a mouse you would do better

i mean the fact is theres people who are choosing mice over the controller ... that should be enough proof


My argument isn't that mouse and keyboard isn't more accurate than a controller. My argument is that using it is not cheating and the skill ceiling is not different depending on peripheral.

If there is a scale from 0-10 measuring skill and a player with controller inheritly starts at a 4 but a mouse and keyboard starts at a 6, the mouse and keyboard isn't cheating. They both can be 10's.

Saying the mouse and keyboard is cheating is like comparing two cars drag racing. The one with more horsepower is cheating.

This post was edited by ROM on Jul 15 2016 05:37pm
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My argument isn't that mouse and keyboard isn't more accurate than a controller. My argument is that using it is not cheating and the skill ceiling is not different depending on peripheral.

If there is a scale from 0-10 measuring skill and a ayer with controller inherited starts at a 4 but a mouse and keyboard starts at a 6, the mouse and keyboard isn't cheating. They both can be 10's.

Saying the mouse and keyboard is like comparing two cars drag racing. The one with more horsepower is cheating.


im not saying its cheating as ive already stated
im simply arguing its really cheap becasue mouse is proven to have higher ceiling

shit i might do it i never knew that was out i prefer mouse+keyboard and if i can play bf on console with it... why not
idc if its cheap haha im just to oused to m+k now and im not a fan of the ps4 controller i liked the ps3 one better

This post was edited by dragoneth on Jul 15 2016 05:38pm
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Quote (dragoneth @ Jul 15 2016 07:36pm)
im not saying its cheating as ive already stated
im simply arguing its really cheap becasue mouse is proven to have higher ceiling


Nah not higher. Might be easier to get there but not cheating.

In a nutshell we agree. Lol.
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Jul 15 2016 05:43pm
Quote (ROM @ Jul 15 2016 06:38pm)
Nah not higher. Might be easier to get there but not cheating.

In a nutshell we agree. Lol.



mouse can move so much more faster and cover so much more space then a controller
a max sens analog is only so fast u can up the settings on the mouse and then move it crazy fast by hand like a milasecond across the screen
specially if you have one of those giant like 2 feet long gaming mouse pads lol

its fact a mouse and keyboard is better stop trying to argue they are equal its not :P
its much harder to hit the max ceiling with m+k as the sens can be too high for some but some people are good like that

This post was edited by dragoneth on Jul 15 2016 05:44pm
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Jul 19 2016 10:56am
Considering many games will ban you if you use a mouse and keyboard...
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