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Jul 16 2016 01:04am
FT10s while watching evo anybody?

msg me my psn is Espadah-

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Jul 17 2016 03:56pm
Nash too good in this game
Hopefully chun wins it
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Jul 17 2016 07:50pm
top 8 HYPE
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Jul 17 2016 11:01pm
Nash's kit and frame data is just stupid

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Jul 17 2016 11:42pm
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Nash's kit and frame data is just stupid


idk if you've ever really looked at his frame data but alot of his normals that aren't lights are even or negative, and cr, hp is his only + heavy normal at +3, step kick is -2, forward mk is also -2 he loses his turn after those because he doesn't have any invincible reversal to mash to make -2 situations a guessing game. his wakeup is shit and nonexistant, he has awful escape options that are easily chased down. you must have IMMACULATE footsies to win like that with him. he has good tools and hes definitely top 5 don't get me wrong, but don't treat nash like hes broken lol, bazooka knee is -5 or some shit, you have to space it perfectly to not be punished.

Mika is honestly one of nashs worst matchups because off a touch he struggles to guess against her, lack of viable options really. infiltration really is just that good.
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Jul 18 2016 08:39am
Quote (Sasori @ Jul 18 2016 05:42am)
idk if you've ever really looked at his frame data but alot of his normals that aren't lights are even or negative, and cr, hp is his only + heavy normal at +3, step kick is -2, forward mk is also -2 he loses his turn after those because he doesn't have any invincible reversal to mash to make -2 situations a guessing game. his wakeup is shit and nonexistant, he has awful escape options that are easily chased down. you must have IMMACULATE footsies to win like that with him. he has good tools and hes definitely top 5 don't get me wrong, but don't treat nash like hes broken lol, bazooka knee is -5 or some shit, you have to space it perfectly to not be punished.

Mika is honestly one of nashs worst matchups because off a touch he struggles to guess against her, lack of viable options really. infiltration really is just that good.



His kit and frame data is just stupid good
Yes mika is a bad match up once she gets in that goes for most of the cast
Except EVERYBODY is forced to play Nash's game UNTIL they get in


Even the EVO champ himself says he plays Nash because Nash is "cheap"
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Jul 18 2016 11:51am
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His kit and frame data is just stupid good
Yes mika is a bad match up once she gets in that goes for most of the cast
Except EVERYBODY is forced to play Nash's game UNTIL they get in


Even the EVO champ himself says he plays Nash because Nash is "cheap"


infiltration said hakan was cheap too. he just says whatever he likes is cheap to mess with people.

you have to play nashs game? hardly, chun ryu and mika all are bad matchups for him, MK scythe is -8 and has to be spaced properly, his fireballs are easily reactable, forward fierce is like -22 or some dumb shit you can literally block it and dash in it's that bad, low forward is -2 or -3, most people never once realize "oh it's my turn after he does this move" and they LET nash have his way with what he wants. the game is still young and people are fuckin clueless when it comes to reacting to stuff.

in a couple years nash will be mid tier at best.
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Jul 18 2016 02:10pm
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infiltration said hakan was cheap too. he just says whatever he likes is cheap to mess with people.

you have to play nashs game? hardly, chun ryu and mika all are bad matchups for him, MK scythe is -8 and has to be spaced properly, his fireballs are easily reactable, forward fierce is like -22 or some dumb shit you can literally block it and dash in it's that bad, low forward is -2 or -3, most people never once realize "oh it's my turn after he does this move" and they LET nash have his way with what he wants. the game is still young and people are fuckin clueless when it comes to reacting to stuff.

in a couple years nash will be mid tier at best.



Scythe does not have to be spaced properly
It's punishable when it's point blank or near point blank
Even a little over half distance scythe is safe because of pushback
It's not hard to space
Low crLk is +
CrMk is - but has one of the best ranges
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Jul 18 2016 07:10pm
Quote (itzpookiie @ Jul 18 2016 02:10pm)
Scythe does not have to be spaced properly
It's punishable when it's point blank or near point blank
Even a little over half distance scythe is safe because of pushback
It's not hard to space
Low crLk is +
CrMk is - but has one of the best ranges


atleast 9 characters on the cast can punish his medium scythe unless it's max distance, ken can straight up tatsu even if its max distance. ryu probably can too if hes fast enough, chun can do ex lightning legs i think, mika can ex shooting peach,
fang can do his little stab poison move idk what its called. balrog can do rush punchs, and so CR.MK has good ranges. thats up to the player. a player with bad spacing and footsies isn't gonna use that move properly.
also you have to take into account normal Priority in sfv, his cr mk loses to more shit than you think. for instance, nash can hardly EVER use cr.mk in the alex matchup because of alexs 5.hk, yo will eat boot, chun li's sweep is good against cr mk also.

theres options and tools if you take your time in training mode to learn them
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