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Jan 4 2010 02:08pm
hmm after u get both cosmos u don't need to have staff skills, i don't see the need for hybrid summys anymore, staff cosmos in all honesty do really bad damage and its not worth the time u lose by switching around from tb to staff. Some may argue palpus its good for its debuff but it doesn't last long enough for it to be worth it. Plus KBing with staff skills being TB build, its not gonna work out unless u have a really godly low lvl staff talking about pvp/pvm wise.
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Jan 4 2010 02:33pm
hmm yeah nice argument. but everyone still sayin Hybrid are best ... and in fact... Summy got a lack in Skills ...TB thress will be full around lvl 90 + summon lvl 100

and the 3 1st skill in TB beconme uzeless So .. hybrid can only help combing a lack in skill... or maybe. in skill pts to waste

still - Staff got ranged ... this can help a shit load in caze of Tactic
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Jan 4 2010 02:54pm
Quote (NightOowl @ Jan 4 2010 02:33pm)
hmm yeah nice argument. but everyone still sayin Hybrid are best ... and in fact... Summy got a  lack in Skills ...TB thress will be full around lvl 90 + summon lvl 100

and the 3 1st skill in TB beconme uzeless So .. hybrid can only help combing a lack in skill... or maybe. in skill pts to waste

still - Staff got ranged ... this can help a shit load in caze of Tactic


They aren't useless they actually deal more damage than, any other staff skill when being tb build, at least at higher lvls, because of mob def/resistance ur damage with staff skills will be lower and lower as u go up. I know at lower levels you need to be hybrid to keep your aoe chained, but at 97 there is no need to use both cosmos, but if u go with a level 30 staff throwing cosmos at the mobs in dead lands they are just gonna laugh at u, turn around and fire their laz0rs at u.

The only skill that its worth getting if ur determinately wanting to go hybrid is vicious thorn imo
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Jan 4 2010 03:24pm
lol again thx for information ^^ i'll chek . but whit this new Argument. i ask myself wath im gonna do ^^

any others argument... Topic free ^^ For summoner

like witch skill are the most usefull for summoner?
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Jan 4 2010 05:07pm
yeah but palpus helps for its 50% slow movement too

when u duels an hunter, itll be usefull

when u lvl, ull use all tb skills, and basicly no staff skills

i normaly do :
poison sword - vicious mirror - Dark avatar - poison sword - spirit dagger - shadow revenge

and repeat this

thats what i do in crevice and i can loop this

i use staff skills in duels only, i use palpus in duel, when oposant is away, or if he run, u can also use infected earth if he run, because it attack fast and is ranged
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Jan 4 2010 05:46pm
Quote (Sergeant01 @ Jan 4 2010 05:07pm)
yeah but palpus helps for its 50% slow movement too

when u duels an hunter, itll be usefull

when u lvl, ull use all tb skills, and basicly no staff skills

i normaly do :
poison sword - vicious mirror - Dark avatar - poison sword - spirit dagger - shadow revenge

and repeat this

thats what i do in crevice and i can loop this

i use staff skills in duels only, i use palpus in duel, when oposant is away, or if he run, u can also use infected earth if he run, because it attack fast and is ranged


Yes, but its really easy to run away from palpus, specially if ur a hunter.

Also try poison sword - shadow revenge - spirit dagger - dark avatar - vicious mirror. for pvp against melee
or shadow revenge - dark avatar - spirit dagger- vicious mirror - fill ups - dark avatar.
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Jan 4 2010 06:07pm
Quote (hotdogski @ 4 Jan 2010 21:08)
hmm after u get both cosmos u don't need to have staff skills, i don't see the need for hybrid summys anymore, staff cosmos in all honesty do really bad damage and its not worth the time u lose by switching around from tb to staff. Some may argue palpus its good for its debuff but it doesn't last long enough for it to be worth it. Plus KBing with staff skills being TB build, its not gonna work out unless u have a really godly low lvl staff talking about pvp/pvm wise.


myrvyn does well with his hybrid build. sure, he's using a 36+7 staff, but that +7 doesn't make a real difference. pvp-wise AND pve-wise, staff skills can be really useful later on plus you have plenty of skills left.

casting staff skills and switching back to tb is funny too :) deals some nice damage.

This post was edited by Nekony on Jan 4 2010 06:09pm
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Jan 5 2010 08:14am
i agreed.. and personnaly. i'm about to buy a Razer Tarantula Keyboard. whit Maccro key .. 100$ for this ^^ soudz good to me.. so buy the way . i'll can change both Wpnz + Skill bar pressing One touch just left to my 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-0---=- already got the mice diamondback 3G ... so can do it whit mice .. in game you don't uze back or forward ^^ if you know wath i mean

but still ... this char was simply made for Battlesiege ... if they can take out in Rondow .. i knwo this is a new server. takin his time and all... but i prepare myself to have like 2-3 char ready for BATTLE

so the question is... hybrid or Pure Sword .... Str or Pure Vita .. don't talk about pure staff... nothing good comin out of this ^^ for me

So new info . i don't care about lack in PvE . i wanna Rock This Siege
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Quote (NightOowl @ Jan 5 2010 09:14am)
i agreed.. and personnaly. i'm about to buy a Razer Tarantula Keyboard. whit Maccro key .. 100$ for this ^^ soudz good to me.. so buy the way . i'll can change both Wpnz + Skill bar pressing One touch just left to my 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-0---=-  already got the mice diamondback 3G ... so can do it whit mice .. in game you don't uze back or forward ^^ if you know wath i mean

but still ... this char was simply made for Battlesiege ... if they can take out in Rondow .. i knwo this is a new server. takin his time and all... but i prepare myself to have like 2-3 char ready for BATTLE

so the question is...  hybrid or Pure Sword .... Str or Pure Vita .. don't talk about pure staff... nothing good comin out of this ^^ for me

So new info . i don't care about lack in PvE . i wanna Rock This Siege


For duels, pure vita is a must
Also for siege, lvl 130+ is a must too
and at lvl 130, ull have enough skill points to have all tb skills maxed and to go hybrid, so why not
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Jan 5 2010 02:48pm
Quote (NightOowl @ Jan 5 2010 08:14am)
i agreed.. and personnaly. i'm about to buy a Razer Tarantula Keyboard. whit Maccro key .. 100$ for this ^^ soudz good to me.. so buy the way . i'll can change both Wpnz + Skill bar pressing One touch just left to my 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-0---=-  already got the mice diamondback 3G ... so can do it whit mice .. in game you don't uze back or forward ^^ if you know wath i mean

but still ... this char was simply made for Battlesiege ... if they can take out in Rondow .. i knwo this is a new server. takin his time and all... but i prepare myself to have like 2-3 char ready for BATTLE

so the question is...  hybrid or Pure Sword .... Str or Pure Vita .. don't talk about pure staff... nothing good comin out of this ^^ for me

So new info . i don't care about lack in PvE . i wanna Rock This Siege


well that's gonna take a couple of years bud, unless u use hacks. Took me 2 years to get my summie to 144, siege it's something to look forward to and it's even funner when u own it, free teleports everywhere ;). Also enjoyed peole getting frustrated when they couldn't take the castle away from us lol. Good times good times :)

anyway ull have plenty of time to come up with ur own build, and probably by the time u join a siege guild new skills will be out screwing out ur build so
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