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Jun 7 2013 03:52pm
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licensing in the sense that you really don't own the game. You can't sell it if you wanted to, you cant even give it away for free.


You do own it, you can sell it and you can give it away for free. Sony is doing that exact same thing with regards to the developers picking whether they want to opt in to used games, and the rules governing license transfer are still being worked on. In November nobody is going to care anymore.
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Jun 7 2013 04:49pm
All I am saying is: With all the hate of EA over online codes, and hate at One over the used game policy, I doubt any developer is going to shoot themselves in the foot over it. Yes, no used games means new games must be bought, but public image is what is at the core of game sales among most of the PS4 audience, since 3rd party games and children's games/Kinect games aren't what drives sales. Final Fantasy/God of War/Kingdom Hearts/ and soon to be Last of Us, all more than average gamer titles, drive sales.
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Jun 7 2013 05:13pm
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All I am saying is: With all the hate of EA over online codes, and hate at One over the used game policy, I doubt any developer is going to shoot themselves in the foot over it.  Yes, no used games means new games must be bought, but public image is what is at the core of game sales among most of the PS4 audience, since 3rd party games and children's games/Kinect games aren't what drives sales.  Final Fantasy/God of War/Kingdom Hearts/ and soon to be Last of Us, all more than average gamer titles, drive sales.


You're wrong. Look at the N64, amazing exclusives yet it didn't sell. Look at the WiiU, good exclusives but it doesn't sell. Consoles live and die on third party support.

Multiplayer games drive console sales in today's age. Call of Duty being better on the 360 really helped sell consoles.
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Jun 7 2013 05:16pm
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You're wrong. Look at the N64, amazing exclusives yet it didn't sell. Look at the WiiU, good exclusives but it doesn't sell. Consoles live and die on third party support.

Multiplayer games drive console sales in today's age. Call of Duty being better on the 360 really helped sell consoles.


The WiiU has no good exclusives yet besides New Super Mario Bros. U.
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Jun 7 2013 05:18pm
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The WiiU has no good exclusives yet besides New Super Mario Bros. U.


that's not a good exclusive, so it has nothing right now
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Jun 7 2013 05:19pm
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The WiiU has no good exclusives yet besides New Super Mario Bros. U.


which is why the sales are so bad.

when it gets some better software support, the console sales will improve
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Jun 7 2013 05:28pm
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which is why the sales are so bad.

when it gets some better software support, the console sales will improve


I doubt it will. Third party publishers have abadoned it, it's done. I'd expect this to be the last Nintendo console if they can't bring them back.
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Jun 7 2013 05:47pm
http://techland.time.com/2013/06/07/microsofts-xbox-one-used-games-policies-are-clear-as-mud/

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The WiiU has no good exclusives yet besides New Super Mario Bros. U.


New super mario bros is not a good exclusive. Seriously 2d side scrolling mario games are so fucking boring/easy now.
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Jun 7 2013 06:08pm
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http://techland.time.com/2013/06/07/microsofts-xbox-one-used-games-policies-are-clear-as-mud/



New super mario bros is not a good exclusive. Seriously 2d side scrolling mario games are so fucking boring/easy now.


Boring is an opinion; like I could say Gears of War: Judgment is boring in comparison to New Super Mario Bros. U. If you think that they are easy than that is what New Super Luigi U is correcting right this moment.
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Jun 7 2013 06:24pm
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You're wrong. Look at the N64, amazing exclusives yet it didn't sell. Look at the WiiU, good exclusives but it doesn't sell. Consoles live and die on third party support.

Multiplayer games drive console sales in today's age. Call of Duty being better on the 360 really helped sell consoles.


You obviously didn't get my point.

My point is that the exclusives on PS3 have a "higher gamer" mentality to them. This "hardcore" gamers are the target for many PS3/4 developers, and these are the people on the internet/doing research/ will base their sales on company rather than a pretty game. This reason there will be minimal developers that will suppor the no used game movement.
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