And my point was,that probably 95% of sales from a game that is console exclusive comes from the console version. Other then No Man's Sky pretty much every game that comes to both PC and a console it sells terribly on PC. I think what this argument should be about is console exclusive not just exclusive. Xbox people do not care that Halo or Quantum Break or any other console exclusive is on PC. I don't sit here and say "aww shit Gears 4 is going to PC so I have no reason to own an xbox". Just like PS4 people don't care if No Man's Sky or Uncharted go to PC,they aren't all of a sudden going to say my PS4 is useless. For the most part people buy consoles to game cause its a million times easier then upgrading your pc every other month and it shows when it comes to the sales of literally every game console exclusive or not when it comes to pc sales. Even Call of Duty sells a huge % of its games on console as compared to PC

There are facts which can't be disagreed on. People (not you per say but definitely timmay) shrug then off as off they don't mean anything. Fact is they are not exclusive. That can't be argued.

My point from the get go has always been that when an exclusive is not really exclusive then it doesn't help the console. That is a fact and doesn't matter the breakdown on percentages.

Timmay likes to take me pointing that out as an attack on his beloved Xbox when he standing on his hill saying it doesn't matter.

This post was edited by ROM on Aug 25 2016 01:21pm

You are factually correct when you say they aren't pure exclusives. You are 100% wrong that if they aren't 100% exclusive then they don't help the console. Gears of War 4 is going to come to both PC and Xbox One. I guarantee that the Xbox One version outsells the PC version by like 10 to 1. I also guarantee that tens,if not hundreds of thousands of Xbox One consoles get bought this holiday season specifically to buy Gears of War 4. If that is not the definition of helping a console then I don't know what is.

Same with No Man's Sky,yes its on PC but I guarantee a shit ton of people bought a PS4 just for No Man's Sky. There is a reason that anytime a big console exclusive release hits that the specific console gets a big boost in sales for a few weeks whether it is on PC or not.

But, I am sure we can agree that are some console sales lost due to the fact that there are people who will play it on PC who would have otherwise bought a console.
That's my definition of the PC version not helping the console.

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And I don't think the number lost is insignificant.

This post was edited by ROM on Aug 25 2016 01:37pm

Are there a few that wouldn't? Absolutely but that number is for sure insignificant. Other then No Man's Sky which seems to be popular on PC when you talk to anyone when it comes to a big game like Gears,Halo etc etc how many of them say they play it on PC. That number is tiny. And for the most part pc gamers stick to pc just like console gamers stick to pc. If 100,000 people bought Gears 4 for PC,id bet maybe 5-10% of them would buy an Xbox One if it didn't come out on pc.

Well then that is where we disagree. I feel as if either company wouldn't be trying to infiltrate the PC market if the number was truley insignificant.

I'm not at all saying the pc market is insignificant,the pc market is probably bigger then the console market. I'm saying not that many ppl that play on pc go out of their way to buy a console just like not many people that have consoles go out of their way to play on pc therefore it doesn't hurt a console to have the games on pc.

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Not true at all.
You are not accounting for the millions of people not owning a high end PC.
Most people either cant afford or even want a gaming PC.

Also

When it comes to MP, most people prefer console.
People Only play CSGO on Steam.

This post was edited by Loathe on Sep 3 2016 04:18am