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Mar 12 2012 04:22pm
Quote (Arsenic_Touch @ Mar 12 2012 05:07pm)
Except they don't all speak English, what you hear is the translator. Shepard makes reference to this translator when speaking to Thane. Tali constantly uses phrases that don't translate.
There's also evidence of a universal language called galactic, a language recognized by all races for trading, which is what you're actually hearing in the game. Shepard asks someone to repeat what they said in galatic.


Not saying you're "fibbing" but I've never noticed that but I have noticed characters mentioning earth sayings and asking what they mean, and Garrus and Tali metioning what stuff in their langauges that they can't think of the english word.
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Mar 12 2012 05:20pm
You know the thing I don't understand, they say they can't win conventionally. Well, evidence in the game shows they can.

The reaper on Rannoch was destroyed in a matter of seconds when the Quarian fleet hit it with everyone. And that's only a small group compared to if you get all the fleets together. Why can't they follow the same pattern at earth? All the fleet targets the same reaper, rinse and repeat untill all in space are gone. Then move to earth. They out numbered the reapers like 100-1 in the final battle if you got the max. There should have been an ending where you destroy them without the crucible if you hit 5000 EMS.
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Mar 12 2012 05:25pm
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You know the thing I don't understand, they say they can't win conventionally. Well, evidence in the game shows they can.

The reaper on Rannoch was destroyed in a matter of seconds when the Quarian fleet hit it with everyone. And that's only a small group compared to if you get all the fleets together. Why can't they follow the same pattern at earth? All the fleet targets the same reaper, rinse and repeat untill all in space are gone. Then move to earth. They out numbered the reapers like 100-1 in the final battle if you got the max. There should have been an ending where you destroy them without the crucible if you hit 5000 EMS.


Considering how fucked the Alliance Fleet along with other Navy's in Citadel space got in Mass Effect 1 when facing Sovereign I doubt they could do this long before depleting their resources.
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Mar 12 2012 06:11pm
Spoiler: If you want shepard to live, you must pick destroy and have 4000+ EMS. Which means your TMS must be 8000 or higher. This is impossible in a single player game, you must play multiplayer to get the extra points.
Highlight to see spoiler.
If you have the PC version and don't want to play multiplayer, there is a save editor where you can edit one of your assets to change your number.

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Considering how fucked the Alliance Fleet along with other Navy's in Citadel space got in Mass Effect 1 when facing Sovereign I doubt they could do this long before depleting their resources.


There isn't very many of them, only a couple dozen Soverign-class reapers. They still get taken down fast if everyone concentrates.
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Mar 12 2012 07:43pm
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There isn't very many of them, only a couple dozen Soverign-class reapers. They still get taken down fast if everyone concentrates.


More than a couple dozen. Every cycle, one sovereign class reaper is created or so it's alluded, where as the amount of destroyers and other smaller ships is practically infinite.

The Leviathan of Dis is the first reaper found in the galaxy to date. The batarians took it and were indoctrinated. They estimated that it was a billion years old. Every 50,000 years the reapers would cull the advanced civilizations. Assuming they create one sovereign class reaper every cycle, that's at least 20,000 sovereign style reapers. This doesn't include the destroyers which number far greater.

So no, it's quite easy to see how a fleet would be decimated by them.

Also, every reaper that has been destroyed were the smaller destroyer type reapers, not the big ones.

Sovereign reaper = 2 kilometers (largest ship in the fleet was the destiny and it was still much smaller than sovereign )
Destroyer reaper = 160 meters.

Now compare that to the size of the alliance and alien fleets and you can easily tell why they were decimated.

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More than a couple dozen. Every cycle, one sovereign class reaper is created or so it's alluded, where as the amount of destroyers and other smaller ships is practically infinite.

The Leviathan of Dis is the first reaper found in the galaxy to date. The batarians took it and were indoctrinated. They estimated that it was a billion years old. Every 50,000 years the reapers would cull the advanced civilizations. Assuming they create one sovereign class reaper every cycle, that's at least 20,000 sovereign style reapers. This doesn't include the destroyers which number far greater.

So no, it's quite easy to see how a fleet would be decimated by them.

Also, every reaper that has been destroyed were the smaller destroyer type reapers, not the big ones.

Sovereign reaper = 2 kilometers (largest ship in the fleet was the destiny and it was still much smaller than sovereign )
Destroyer reaper = 160 meters.

Now compare that to the size of the alliance and alien fleets and you can easily tell why they were decimated.


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Mar 12 2012 09:29pm
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More than a couple dozen. Every cycle, one sovereign class reaper is created or so it's alluded, where as the amount of destroyers and other smaller ships is practically infinite.

The Leviathan of Dis is the first reaper found in the galaxy to date. The batarians took it and were indoctrinated. They estimated that it was a billion years old. Every 50,000 years the reapers would cull the advanced civilizations. Assuming they create one sovereign class reaper every cycle, that's at least 20,000 sovereign style reapers. This doesn't include the destroyers which number far greater.

So no, it's quite easy to see how a fleet would be decimated by them.

Also, every reaper that has been destroyed were the smaller destroyer type reapers, not the big ones.

Sovereign reaper = 2 kilometers (largest ship in the fleet was the destiny and it was still much smaller than sovereign )
Destroyer reaper = 160 meters.

Now compare that to the size of the alliance and alien fleets and you can easily tell why they were decimated.


Come on there isn't 20,000 soverign sized reapers or even limitless destroyers. If there was that many it wouldn't have taken "centuries" (We can assume it's more than 200 years) to kill off the Protheans. The codex says they only go for the largest cities and the most important systems. Maybe a couple dozen was low, maybe they're in the 100s, but there was probably only a few dozen at earth (15-20 on planet and another 20-40 in space) and then a thousand or so destroyers in space and land.

In game we don't see any capital ships get destroyed by Shepard, but in the codex it talks about it, the Miracle at Palevan, and in space you see dozens of destroyers being destroyed and possibly one or two soverign class reapers being destroyed. If you have a high EMS, though you are losing the ground battle, they heavily imply they're winning in space.

Not much is said outright, but they do mention several tiems that the reapers are taking heavy casualties, and I don't think they're referring to only ground troops.

Like I said before, the reapers were clearly massively outnumbered at Earth and they mention many times that the Reapers are their most strong at Earth (Reason they moved the Citadel there and not Palavan). They're not invincable, and they aren't infinate.
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Mar 12 2012 10:01pm
WOW!
Got a nice god damn scare!
Turned on my Mass Effect 3 and my ' Resume Game '
was not there...
jad to restart my 350 3x times.
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Mar 12 2012 10:07pm
I've noticed over time that Mass Effect must have had a HUGE stargate fan among the high ranks.

John Shepard - Main character in Atlantis (looks like him)

The Ancients - Protheans

The Last Sole Surviving Ancient Merlin ~ Javik the last Prothean

Imminent destruction from a race of immeasurable power: The Aurai ~ Reapers

The Aurai destroyed by a seemingly impossible ancient weapon ~ The Crucible

The ancient race and weapon fabricated from one mans understanding, downloaded by an ancient unknown beacon ~ Happened to Shepard almost exactly the same way



There are a few other aspects but I can't seem to think of them now, I never thought of bringing this up but I always saw the resemblence, and I JUST STARTED to watch Atlantis, and when he called Major "John Shepard" to his attention, and he showed in the picture and looked like Shepard, I just figured I would bring this to attention



Oh, and bringing multiple races and species together to fight a common evil, that was a resemblance as well

Oh and the Stargates, instantaneous travel between planets and systems, (Mass Relays)

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