because EA isn't getting money from your used purchase, they want money from every user.

You will get to play NHL if you buy it used, as long as you buy the online pass. The gaming industry loses a pretty large amount of money because people buy used games, so why not make up for that by just charging for the online pass. You saving money=them losing money. Why should they have to lose money because you want a good deal on something. Gotta thing of it from both sides mate. I mean i love the idea of saving money on things, but i can understand why a company would want to take action against them losing money.

You guys must understand that I know this. They're a business, I get it. As a consumer, I have every right to speak my mind about it. Why do you guys feel the need to defend it? If they up'd games to $80 would everybody be like "well, it's a business guys"? They didn't have online passes and made out just fine. Now that they have them I don't feel like I'm getting anything more for my money.

I wasn't defending it. I think 10$ is way too high. Also I think used games should sell more cheaply. If they are going to be 10$ for online pass they should be 10-15$ cheaper than the new game.

This post was edited by timmayX on Nov 25 2011 11:52am

If i cant defend it, why are you allowed to criticize it? If they up'd it to $80 id say the same thing i say with everything else thats raising prices "im glad i have a good job and can afford it". Honestly I would support the price up, they deserve it. Why should people who bust ass making these games, have to take a pay cut, because people arent buying games new, but just going out and buying them used. You are getting the same effect Music Artist have gotten over the illegally downloadable music.

Wow, I know how online passes work. The gaming industry does everything they can to screw over gamers now. Online passes, withholding content to release a week later as DLC, putting content on the disc but making you pay to unlock it, etc. Are you going to tell me that yearly EA sports franchises have such a high development cost that the only way to keep from going under was screwing over the used community?

Here, I'll bold something you guys are dodging: Gaming has always had a "used" community. Ever since the start. Always. The gaming industry has survived this long with a used community. They can continue without it changing that.

They aren't suddenly "losing" money. They're gaining money by taking away something that we've always been given for free. They absolutely LOVE people like you since you'll defend them even if they raise the games to $80. If anything, they've been losing a lot of money from people like me who boycott their shady tactics. I used to buy Madden and NHL every year but NHL 12 was the first game from EA that I've bought since they announced online passes. It makes them look like greedy assholes... it's why Valve and Rockstar are among the most loved devs in the community.

not sure if any1 posted this but ea has those online passes on almost everygame
but 95% of their games are broken on release day(most likely everything is rushed) not gonna mention those servers that "we support" with online passes

it doesnt hurt my situation at all either
so far i only bought EA games brand new
so i dont need to pay $10 for online code

but i can understand why theyre doing it

This post was edited by itzpookiie on Nov 25 2011 12:01pm

The used market isn't new. It's always existed. They aren't taking a pay cut. I'd really LOVE to see you defend the other cheap tactics like withholding content to make as DLC and locking content on the disc and making you pay to unlock.

I'll say it again: Gaming has always had a used community. They went from nothing to who they are now with a used community. It doesn't hurt them as much as they're brainwashing you to believe.

Ok, its not that they are "losing" money, its that they are making less than they would be if people werent buying used. So to make up for it, they charge an extra $10 for people who buy used copies. But all in all, you know what? They can charge $80 for the game, slap on an extra $10 for the online pass, and they will STILL sell them like crazy. People are going to buy it regardless of the price, aside from poor people of course.

You might as well stop complaining, cause online passes arent going anywhere. They are going to be implemented by many more companies soon enough. My best advice is maybe go find a job that pays an extra $10 a year so you can afford an online pass.