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Jul 16 2009 09:26am
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Jul 16 2009 08:28pm
Quote (darkfire @ Wed, 15 Jul 2009, 06:34)
Fung, he probably doesn't understand Chinese if he's asking for help in English on a Chinese forum.

That said, Fung is probably right; the rent in Hong Kong is astronomical (I am somewhat shocked that it is almost $2k/month, though) so you should be prepared to spend quite a bit of money to live there.  You may want to look into very low-end housing options like the Chungking Mansions if you aren't rich.

In terms of study, you need to take classes on pronunciation before trying to learn from someone over Skype (I'm also a foreigner learning Chinese).  Tones matter a lot, so you can't just wing it.  It's even worse if you want to live in Hong Kong, since they speak Cantonese there, which has 8 tones.  Best of luck.


I think we will move to beijing, couse no point in learning cantonese when its mandarin thats most used in china.
And i have read some places that hong kong is just a trace city, we want to experiance more the cultural side of china.
2k is really cheap, in norway you have to pay 2000$ just for a normal apartment, but it cheaper in beijing or? and is it easy to find apartments? we don't want to organize any thing, we just want to go down there and take it as it comes. we also want to live on the countery. we are not much of city people:P

But i guees we need to live at hotels for some nights before we find a apartment, i saw thats its about 60$ a night trough a travel agentcy, any one know the price if you arange hotel your self?

We will bring about 15000$ and hopfully we both get ~~1500$ a mounth in wellfare And we will live in china in 3-6 mounths, on this time we want to go to tibet and mount everest(not clime to the top:P just look at it, and clime a little) live some nights at hotel and hopfully rest in apartment go on museums etc train or plane from beijing to tibet/everest and food and drink's
Is this enough you think? we dont want to live any fancy or any thing
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Jul 16 2009 11:52pm
北京不错,找到地方租的话,440美元住一个月足够,如果是15000$ ,那么6个月的消费也相当足够,去西藏很方便,水和食物什么地方都可以购买,不用带很多负担,除非你要去野外一星期。不过现在天气很炎热,估计你得适应一段时间。一般我建议不必带很多物品,只带必需品即可,其他到中国花很少的钱就可以采购到。
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Quote (kugo @ Thu, Jul 16 2009, 08:34am)
darkfire 是 中国人?


darkfire是老外 :P

Quote (tore @ Thu, Jul 16 2009, 09:28pm)
I think we will move to beijing, couse no point in learning cantonese when its mandarin thats most used in china.
And i have read some places that hong kong is just a trace city, we want to experiance more the cultural side of china.
2k is really cheap, in norway you have to pay 2000$ just for a normal apartment, but it cheaper in beijing or? and is it easy to find apartments? we don't want to organize any thing, we just want to go down there and take it as it comes. we also want to live on the countery. we are not much of city people:P

But i guees we need to live at hotels for some nights before we find a apartment, i saw thats its about 60$ a night trough a travel agentcy, any one know the price if you arange hotel your self?

We will bring about 15000$ and hopfully we both get ~~1500$ a mounth in wellfare And we will live in china in 3-6 mounths, on this time we want to go to tibet and mount everest(not clime to the top:P just look at it, and clime a little) live some nights at hotel and hopfully rest in apartment go on museums etc train or plane from beijing to tibet/everest and food and drink's
Is this enough you think? we dont want to live any fancy or any thing


$15k + $3k/month is well more than enough. You could live pretty well on that actually.  I don't recommend living in the country, but if you insist, it is possible.  The services available will be far less than in the city, and you will have a much harder time getting around.

I strongly recommend living in 五道口 with the rest of the foreigners studying Chinese. The area is set up very well for people with remedial Chinese skills to survive and there is housing available at 地址大 if I remember correctly.

Regarding hotel prices, $60 seems on the high side, even for Beijing. I've always lived on campus in the city, so I don't know what hotel prices are. I recommend using http://www.ctrip.com/ to look for your hotels, though. My intutition is that it should be much cheaper than that.

Tibet, I've heard, is quite beautiful. It's a pain to get in though.  You have to go with a "tour group", which requires some inane paperwork.  I've never bothered going through it, but I've heard that it's a hassle.

Can you read Feng's post btw? He's got good advice there.

This post was edited by darkfire on Jul 17 2009 02:43am
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Quote (tore @ Thu, Jul 16 2009, 09:28pm)
I think we will move to beijing, couse no point in learning cantonese when its mandarin thats most used in china.
And i have read some places that hong kong is just a trace city, we want to experiance more the cultural side of china.
2k is really cheap, in norway you have to pay 2000$ just for a normal apartment, but it cheaper in beijing or? and is it easy to find apartments? we don't want to organize any thing, we just want to go down there and take it as it comes. we also want to live on the countery. we are not much of city people:P

But i guees we need to live at hotels for some nights before we find a apartment, i saw thats its about 60$ a night trough a travel agentcy, any one know the price if you arange hotel your self?

We will bring about 15000$ and hopfully we both get ~~1500$ a mounth in wellfare And we will live in china in 3-6 mounths, on this time we want to go to tibet and mount everest(not clime to the top:P just look at it, and clime a little) live some nights at hotel and hopfully rest in apartment go on museums etc train or plane from beijing to tibet/everest and food and drink's
Is this enough you think? we dont want to live any fancy or any thing


Shanghai , Beiking, Hongkong are most expensive place in China, they rip u easy when u are traveling,btw fung live in Guangxi, total diff ~~
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I'm living in Beijing, Apartment rental in Beijing is cheap to you guys i think. 5 star hotel single room you can find 100USD per night, 4 and 3 star hotal is pretty enough as well and cheaper. 50usd per night i think.

500USD per month you can find pretty nice apartmen in Beijing, downtown maybe a little more, but no more than 1000usd per month.

in countryside, i think 100USD is too much enough for apartment :)

everything is cheap , food, living stuffs, transport, air ticket is about 200-300 usd/person from Beijing to Tibet but i recommand you travel by Train, 2 days travel and the ticket is about 120USD each passenger.

you'd better seek travel agency to arrange everything. save your time and not that overpay.
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Jul 19 2009 12:26am
or stay in hotels like i'm doing at the moment.

I was able to find a cheap hotel w/ ac/shower in beijing for 160 rmb a day and also stayed in places that cost 1500+rmb a night.

I believe it's currently 6.7rmb:1usd

The subway system is relatively easy to learn as well and the Buses are ok but the people are so damny pushy. Taxi's are find as well but add up quick.

Just keep in mind most people make 1000-1500 rmb a month in china.

...Also, never pay more than 5rmb for a bottle of water. People won't hesitate to rip off people that dont know any better. =)
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Quote (KyoDivine @ Mon, 13 Jul 2009, 23:49)
well i live in the US now, but from wut i know, its pretty expensive to get an apartment in Hong Kong ;o


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