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May 5 2012 06:14pm
so i've been playing this game casually for around a month now and i've been trying to get into nightmare
i have two characters at, or above 74 currently and i'm stumped on what to do to improve my gear

i have my tower apprentice with stats that look something like 499/754/514/526
and i have my dps huntress with 293 health and 481 damage with awful resists, however i'm working on fixing my resists

my question is how do i get better gear than what i've already got? i've been farming the first 2 waves of endless spires but i never find upgrades
i can't solo insane glitter when i'm not on my app/huntress to level more characters to 74
i don't want to buy things from player shops/get handouts if at all possible

what do i do at this point?
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May 6 2012 12:45am
you can try to go to these afk shops, sometimes they sell pretty good items
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May 6 2012 12:47am
Quote (Rimi @ May 5 2012 10:45pm)
you can try to go to these afk shops, sometimes they sell pretty good items


as i said in my first post
"i don't want to buy things from player shops/get handouts if at all possible"
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May 6 2012 01:00am
oh sorry, im getting lazy reading some posts that exactly :P

you can progress piece by piece, play challenges / survival at insane to get items etc. there are many ways though
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May 6 2012 01:18am
Quote (Rimi @ May 5 2012 11:00pm)
oh sorry, im getting lazy reading some posts that exactly :P

you can progress piece by piece, play challenges / survival at insane to get items etc. there are many ways though


that's just it, i'm asking what do i do from here
i tried playing the campaign through on nightmare, got to alchemical lab and the boss utterly ruins my shit
i've been farming nightmare endless spires for so long and i'm not finding any more upgrades, insane doesn't even drop myth
i'm stumped on how to get anywhere

This post was edited by Denied on May 6 2012 01:20am
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May 6 2012 01:47am
well at the begin its pretty hard to solo, you should around 3k+ stats to solo nm hc survival wave 20+
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May 6 2012 04:25pm
Quote (Denied @ May 6 2012 06:47am)
as i said in my first post
"i don't want to buy things from player shops/get handouts if at all possible"


Hate to say it, but this mentality is just not very good for this type of game. I understand wanting to work for your own progression and gear, but the issue you will run into is that this game relies so heavily on RNG that it is can be extremely difficult, time consuming, and boring to find every single piece of gear you might want (as you have already started to experience in ES).

As an example, a good core of characters to have for running upper-echelon survival would be something like this:

Trap Huntress
Aura Monk
Wall EV
Buff Beam EV
Tower Count/Squire
or
Active (hybridish) Count/Squire
DPS (barb, hunt, monk even)

Granted, you do not need to have all of these characters, but this is the kind of thing you're shooting for. In order to gear these characters appropriately you are looking at 7 different sets of gear that are all somewhat unique to their respective builder. The trap hunt needs somewhat even tower stats across the board, favoring, if anything tdmg, thp, tspeed. The aura monk will require somewhat even tower stats across the board favoring thp, trange. Wall EV - an entire set of gear that can max out on thp, other stats don't matter. Buff Beam EV - somewhat even across the board, favoring tdmg, tspeed. Tower count - tower stats heavily favoring tdmg, tspeed. Active count - good tower stats favoring tdmg and good hero hp, cast rate and resists. DPS char - good hero stats favoring hero dmg, hero hp, cast rate, good resists. Considering these facts, it takes a considerable amount of farming time to come up with all these respective gear sets.

Now, yes, it is entirely possible to grind out the farming slowly moving your way up all on your own, but buying things in shops is part of the game. It's how you combat the RNG. Statistically, you could farm for days on end and not find a single useful piece of gear because of how random the stat distributions can be. If you think about it, you still farmed for it yourself because you had to come up with the money somehow. My advice is to acquire (via shop) a strong enough set of gear for your squire that you can easily farm insane GC (for powerleveling around 800/1200/500/500 ought to make it easy) and then work towards making more characters and farming your own gear. The nightmare difficulty ramp is steep at the beginning but starts to plateau a bit once you can clear ES and alch labs and then begin doing misty.

I guess what it comes down to is that this game is a huge grind fest, especially if you aren't accepting any sort of outside help. My best advice would be to try and tag along in public insane GC games for leveling and keep farming ES/alch labs for mana/loot. It will take a while but that's the pathway available to you.

Lastly, I figure you'll say no to this but I'll offer anyway: I would be down to help augment your current squire gear if you are interested, I'm sure I have plenty of pieces that would be upgrades for you that I would not miss. Either that or you're welcome to hop into a snoozefest mana farm that would probably net you more mana than you have had to date. Whatever you decide, good luck.

This post was edited by Darkrift on May 6 2012 04:28pm
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May 6 2012 05:01pm
i really appreciate your help.
i guess this is one game i wont be playing "purist" style, then. i simply don't have the patience to run ES as much as i have already, but do it some more for 6 more characters.

i've been working on some other characters, slowly.
71 squire
73 monk
72 ev

i'll probably start up a trap ranger since as i've noticed in most higher up layouts traps are pretty useful
i guess at this point i wouldn't mind help in any form, if you'd be willing :|
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May 6 2012 08:26pm
prolly gonna do some farming myself in the next hour or so. your welcome to tag along.
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May 7 2012 06:37am
Ez, level a Squire.
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