its the first time i see game that players have to pay extra $ for every patch that comes out.... i mean wtf, why should we pay for every extra char or weapon or new lvl that ppl draw out there, why i have to spend more $ for updates then the true game cost its truly fucked that some ppl who have more then 10 new lvls already done will release them 1 by 1 and make money from us to each one! am i the only 1 that see it fucked ????

plz answer seriously

sry for bad english

This post was edited by greep on Feb 1 2012 06:38pm

It is an INDIE (independent) game, the funding that the creator gets from this is reinvested to give new content (so people won't quit playing it).

its bullshit and you believe it, the creator have already more then 10 new udates already done and ppl like you belive to their lies... i think we should stop buying those extras!

It is not bullshit if you knew how much time it takes to create this type of a game (with updates).

What I cannot understand is how they don't put these patches up for QA/Testing BEFORE they release them and force you to purchase them.

/edit -- for a game that I've spent $30 with multiple accounts, I've spent over 1000 hours on it, is/was it worth it for me? Of course.

This post was edited by dcbc on Feb 1 2012 06:50pm

lol dont you understand what im trying to say ??? i dont give a damn shit how much time it takes to create this game...... its not that crazy, there are some much better games out there and u dont have to pay money for each update that already hacked by cheaters.... if u like paying money for game that cheater control long time ago i wish u the best luck i just say we all must stop buying those extras and stop this cheating for all of us

This post was edited by greep on Feb 1 2012 06:48pm

and, anyway this game will never be better or get ever close to games like D2 that made history out of gaming and still you never needed to pay extra money for updates or new chars! its just not fair! we should stop this !

Greep, you don't understand the infrastructure of how much it would cost for the game to be 'hack free.'

Updates cost anywhere from $2.00 - $5.00. They have released MAYBE 3 updates that you had to pay for.

The total cost hat you had to pay on this game, assuming you paid $15.00 for the game, would be no more than $25.00.

If you're telling me you can't afford $25.00 for entertainment, then I challenge you to get outside and make some money.

For them to make this game 'hack-free' they would have to take the way the games are hosted (locally) and pay for servers.

Servers/backup servers and maintenance on those servers (not to mention the bandwidth required to host these servers) would cost in the tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars a month.

Releasing a game that's free to play (with a multiplayer capability) after you have purchased it will never support this game to have dedicated servers to play on.

Yes, it has cheaters but you don't have to trade with them.

You can spend time and earn your gear and never have to play with anybody else.

first of all ur prices are way to high "would cost in the tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars a month"... and u still didnt understand my point! the point is that in 6 month u will already pay more then 100$ for that game and will keep saying that its not much but just think how many pp had to pay and gonna pay in the future for some poor patches

This post was edited by greep on Feb 1 2012 07:02pm

Then let it be, I can spend $100.00 on whatever I choose to spend $100.00 on, you're asking me to boycott with you and not purchase a part of an update for a game that I (and others) have enjoyed for hundreds of hours.

The fact of the matter is, without a subscription based service, the business model for dungeon defenders does not support having servers (or any updates) without some sort of future income.

As I stated above, the patches are poor - and they should be tested before release. Unfortunately, it's what you pay for in an INDIE game.

This game and D2 have NO comparison.

D2, created by Blizzard, is now a multi billion dollar company.

It had a ton of money from previous projects before it's release (and if you aren't familiar with D2, it has a larger problem with hacks/bots than DD does).

Greep, do you even know how businesses work?