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Nov 28 2016 11:03am
Quote (Price31 @ Nov 28 2016 10:09am)
The trolls are real


First of all aim is a minor factor in overwatch as you said you didn't most definetely learn to aim suddenly.
I'd say it's about 70 - 80 % positioning and game sense of the overall situation and 20 - 30% aim..¨
Secondly the elo swings of 500 elo plus or minus are common if you play a lot because you get lucky with teams and play good consistently some days and
some days you get tilted over the first game of the day and just fall.
Just by changing your attitude you can gain better ranks :) There is no such thing as a flawless game. Of course you can play 20 games and be the best player
in the game out of the 12 players but is that really enough? Aren't you supposed to be getting better rather than just staring at rank

This post was edited by doodleboodle on Nov 28 2016 11:06am
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Nov 28 2016 11:08am
gold dmg means nothing xd
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Nov 28 2016 11:57am
Quote (Mikasa @ Nov 28 2016 01:08pm)
gold dmg means nothing xd


But I can spam Reinhardt shields and mei walls better than you can lmk
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First of all aim is a minor factor in overwatch as you said you didn't most definetely learn to aim suddenly.
I'd say it's about 70 - 80 % positioning and game sense of the overall situation and 20 - 30% aim..¨
Secondly the elo swings of 500 elo plus or minus are common if you play a lot because you get lucky with teams and play good consistently some days and
some days you get tilted over the first game of the day and just fall.
Just by changing your attitude you can gain better ranks :) There is no such thing as a flawless game. Of course you can play 20 games and be the best player
in the game out of the 12 players but is that really enough? Aren't you supposed to be getting better rather than just staring at rank


After a certain point getting better happens a lot slower than it should. When you're so much better than everyone else, and it feels like they haven't learnt the most simple fundamentals of game sense, you actually start developing bad habits. People not sticking together or pushing together forces you to follow suit. Believe it or not the game becomes boring when you're lightyear better than everyone else.

I don't know what sparked this obsession about damage not being important, it was merely one of the many examples I used to outline how I felt I was in a different world of skill and knowledge of the game than the people I'm queueing with. I guess it all comes down to if you belive the current system is accurate or not. If you do think it's ok, then you'll blame the player like you are, despite all signs pointing towards the opposite. If you don't believe in the system, well then these 1k+ SR swings make sense and then we can really start to think about how to fix it.

Just think on this thought though. When you look for a girlfriend for example, you don't just look at one factor about her to determine if it might be a good match, you look at her personality, character, values, beliefs, looks. Now relate it to overwatch, the current system decides your rank solely based on win/loss. Well that just doesn't work. Not in game where your fate is decided entirely by the sum of all 6 of you. How can personal SR be accurate when you are ranked by team. Put Michael Jordan on a college ball team and he never wins anything ever in his life, doesn't mean he's a bad player, he just can't humanly play well enough to make up for the poor play of his team mates.
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Nov 29 2016 09:34am
dmg isnt important xd
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Nov 30 2016 01:11am
Is this guy for real? You're the epitome of "elo hell". You're shit, get over it and try to get better or will live in denial forever.
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Nov 30 2016 10:32am
Thing is your not leagues beyond the people your playing with, sure sometimes you run into people that shouldn't be in your elo, so does everyone else including the team your playing against. The problem with this game is it has no scoreboard, and makes everyone feel like they are the star player and fact is they aren't. The medals are based on some of the most unimportant stats and you have no way to compare to your team. If your on mcree and have gold Elims at 12 and your ana has 10 Elims are you really doing your job or is the system as its setup telling you that your doing great even though you aren't. Why is Elims even a medal all you have to do is hit anyone that dies with 1 point of dmg.

Point is most the people who play this game can't tell when they are ineffective and immediately jump to blame the team. From reading your post I gather you are one of them.
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Nov 30 2016 11:33am
Quote (Jekel @ Nov 30 2016 11:32am)
Thing is your not leagues beyond the people your playing with, sure sometimes you run into people that shouldn't be in your elo, so does everyone else including the team your playing against. The problem with this game is it has no scoreboard, and makes everyone feel like they are the star player and fact is they aren't. The medals are based on some of the most unimportant stats and you have no way to compare to your team. If your on mcree and have gold Elims at 12 and your ana has 10 Elims are you really doing your job or is the system as its setup telling you that your doing great even though you aren't. Why is Elims even a medal all you have to do is hit anyone that dies with 1 point of dmg.

Point is most the people who play this game can't tell when they are ineffective and immediately jump to blame the team. From reading your post I gather you are one of them.



100% this.

I decided when i was 2100 to always change if something wasn't working without having the mentality of "Fuck! what is my team doing?!" or "This fucking reinhardt is complete ass." Once I changed that mentality, within a week I was 3100. Ended the season at 2909 or something like that, but I hovered between 2900-3100 near the end for about 100+ games. Figured that's where I was supposed to be and just had to improve my aim / mechanics to get higher and I do that through practice. Hoping this season to be master, but I can tell you even with subpar mechanics and aiming skill, having the right mentality is all you need to achieve diamond. Everyone below diamond has the "I'm the greatest and my team is shit, why am I stuck with these scrubs." mentality. Once you change that to "Fuck it, this is my team, what can I do to improve it." you'll start climbing. I'm saying this as one of the bastards who ONLY plays dps as well. I don't tank and I rarely heal. But even as a dps, you have to understand, the enemy team is also dealing with the same shit you are (unless they're a 6 stack) so chances are even if you don't have the "meta" comp and have 4 dps, 1 tank, 1 healer... you will still win if you guys play your heroes better than the other team.

Overwatch is in its infancy, for god sakes its only season 3 and the seasons are like 2-3 months long. So this whole 2-2-2 meta won't stay forever, its just something the pros endorsed for the time being because they've found it works... but guess what also works? 3-2-1 with 3 tanks or 3 dps. It was used in the World Cup by some of the top teams we've ever seen play this game that had you going "Holy shit that genji" or "What the fuck, how did that mcree hit that" So my advice to anyone reading this that hasn't gotten to diamond yet? Chillax on the blaming your team and blaming yourself, you win some and you lose some. But I can guarantee if you change your mentality to "what hero can i play that actually complements this team, however shitty this team is"... you'll start climbing. Don't turn into a keyboard warrior or a storm trooper on purpose.
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Nov 30 2016 01:40pm
Yep some games are out of reach to be won, but that's maybe 10 percent of your games which leaves 90 percent of your games that are capable of being won. I mean I got unlucky last season and had my climb halted by a couple of trolls who were throwing on purpose even said they were in team comms. That ruined my attitude and I dropped from 3250 to 2600 in a couple days time.

Once I said fuck it I'm just gonna play the best I can and try to play something I can make a difference on and not worry about anything else or let anything else bother me I climbed back up to where I am now 3007 had the season not ended I have no doubt I could of hit masters in s2.

Stop having an elitist attitude in game and you will have a much better experience overall. Even if you are better than someone else on your team help them make calls take a team leader position if you can do it without being an asshole your gonna win more games.
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