it does affect good widowmakers
you can't quick scope anymore
you cant exit and enter back in fast anymore

i dont understand the first sentence at all and didnt watch the video but w/e
the problem most people had with widowmaker was that a good one could solocarry. she still can. a bad one can be countered by winston. a good one cant and still cant. zenyatta being oneshot is not a widow problem but a zenyatta problem
flashbang lasts 0.5 sec. by the time you get your shit off, reaper will fly away and genji will use his deflect meaning you cant kill them even though you flashed them.
tracer can be oneshot by leftclick but you will rarely flash her in a way that makes her stunned in front of you, mostly you will need to aim first and by the time that happened the probability of tracer
using rewind is pretty high.



that was a bugfix and not a nerf. it doesnt really do much except for the good widowmakers having to spend an hour "relearning" her
it does hurt her overview of the battlefield but that diminishes the better the player because they will have teammates to figure out where people are

This post was edited by Jajangmyon on Jun 15 2016 09:21am

what
FOV on the scope is not big so you HAVE to unzoom to know where to zoom no matter what
the time that itll take now will make the window of a good shot much tighter
the game is still very early
people will adapt to widowmaker
also keep in mind there are alot of casuals right now who don't try to adapt


McCree is fine
McCree was too easy and WAY too effective to play
literally a person that has shitty aim can play him and be effective
that's dumb

This post was edited by itzpookiie on Jun 15 2016 09:34am

mcree is fine, reaper wraiths away at with 1 shot left life wise, then you left click him 1 time once it wears off, and that's IF he had wraith to use. Genji you left click his head after stun and he has 1 shot left to die if he deflects u wait then 1 shot him if not u kill him. Tracer still dies before she can get away to fan the hammer so not sure what your issue is there. Do you main mcree or something cause this sounds like alot of whining for no reason. If anything I enjoy mcree more after the nerf because now the only people who are good with him are people who can aim.




never said it didn't, i said it didn't affect them as much since they aimed for head anyways.


tldr been playing both alot since the patch, still gold elims/damage 90% of the time i play them, which means they are both still very good at doing their job. How it plays out in competitive remains to be seen but Imo mcree will still be used 70-80% of the time and sniper wise we will probably see more hanzo be played now since he is better on some maps now which Imo is a good thing since he literally wasn't played at all before.

This post was edited by Jekel on Jun 15 2016 10:56am

qq

That's exactly what it was, a nerf.
The headshot multiplier only increased to 2.5 from 2.0 to keep the 300 critical damage.
So instead of doing 150 body shot, she does 120. It's a nerf.


Edit: Also the animation cancelling was a huge deal to her play style.
She's a lot harder to master now with these changes. I like them though, I more or less only play widowmaker.

This post was edited by Spetch on Jun 15 2016 02:45pm

There's nothing wrong with widowmaker.. promise you that pal

mccree needed that nerf
widow is only a problem with very skilled snipers she can wreck ive watched people just obliterate teams as her when they are good
and her ulti was up alllll the time which is more devastating that people realize makes for a lot of easy kills
and mercy needed that fix too ulti was always up vs rienhardt

Ya this all the way, i still slap folks with widow...

and that ult of hers is awesome when using her or when you get the advantage of using her ult as recon too.