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Jun 9 2016 02:03am
Quote (ChrisKz @ Jun 9 2016 01:58am)
i think the charge up time is already stupid.... she jsut seems so strong cuz games new. give it a year and people will find out ways to make widowmaker not as useful

if anything they should reduce her mobility, not her dmg. make her scope have less zoom

hanzo can shoot stronger shots faster but he doesn't have as good accuracy or mobility, and his ultimate is huge aoe


I bet Widow becomes even stronger when people get even better at knocking Reinhardt away with Pharah E, Junkrat mine.
Knock him away and kill 3 people before he can get back LOL

She seems strong because she is.

This post was edited by FroggyG on Jun 9 2016 02:09am
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Jun 9 2016 02:06am
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I bet Widow becomes even stronger when people are get even better at knocking Reinhardt away with Pharah E, Junkrat mine.
Knock him away and kill 3 people before he can get back LOL

She seems strong because she is.


she seems strong cuz shes simple

hanzo imo is way stronger

just you wait
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Jun 9 2016 02:10am
Quote (ChrisKz @ Jun 9 2016 02:06am)
she seems strong cuz shes simple

hanzo imo is way stronger

just you wait


Hanzo has a slow projectile
Widow is instant hit

He will literally never be as good
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Jun 9 2016 03:29am
the problem with widow isnt her full charge dmg or her mobility, its the fact if u miss the head and get a body shot on anything but a tank the second shot only needs the first level of charge to kill to the body. It makes her able to drop people way to fast even if her aim is off. They should nerf her non full charged dmg and increase her full auto fire dmg or make the spread a little smaller so you could aim for head easier. She should always kill instantly with headshots on non tanks she's high skill cap and you should get rewarded for playing her well.

This post was edited by Jekel on Jun 9 2016 03:46am
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Jun 9 2016 04:19am
Mcfree they are nerfin fan the hammer dmg.

Mercy does need slower ultimate charge but they can't nerf it to much or they make Lucio the only healer worth using.

Reinhardt shouldn't be nerfed at all Imo the dynamic he brings to matches is fun to watch and he's not super op when it comes to. Killing potential.

This post was edited by Jekel on Jun 9 2016 04:20am
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Jun 9 2016 04:25am
Quote (Jekel @ Jun 9 2016 03:29am)
the problem with widow isnt her full charge dmg or her mobility, its the fact if u miss the head and get a body shot on anything but a tank the second shot only needs the first level of charge to kill to the body. It makes her able to drop people way to fast even if her aim is off. They should nerf her non full charged dmg and increase her full auto fire dmg or make the spread a little smaller so you could aim for head easier. She should always kill instantly with headshots on non tanks she's high skill cap and you should get rewarded for playing her well.


How about 100 body but still old damage head
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Jun 9 2016 04:26am
Quote (Jekel @ Jun 9 2016 04:19am)
Mcfree they are nerfin fan the hammer dmg.

Mercy does need slower ultimate charge but they can't nerf it to much or they make Lucio the only healer worth using.

Reinhardt shouldn't be nerfed at all Imo the dynamic he brings to matches is fun to watch and he's not super op when it comes to. Killing potential.


Reinhardt is definitely OP lol
The only team comp I see without Reinhardt/Mercy combo is Tracer/Genji with double Zenyatta.

Crazy team comp...
Tracer/Genji, Tracer/Genji, Zenyatta, Zenyatta, Symmetra, Lucio



Also his killing potential is huge with charge+ult
Plus he's frustrating to play against in solo queue when others don't shoot down the shield or have the skill to run flank comps

This post was edited by FroggyG on Jun 9 2016 04:30am
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Jun 9 2016 04:38am
I never said Reinhardt wasn't good just that I don't think they should nerf him, 1v1 he's not op vs basically any non tank character due to his range and from a competitive stand point Reinhardt plays are fun to watch and he's just a good core character on offense his shields get dropped pretty quick in competitive he normally needs a pocket mercy to be able to push effectively. I don't even play him much, but I just think nerfing him would be a mistake.


@ Widowmaker Idk what dmg exactly it needs to be I honestly feel they shouldn't nerf her full charge shot just make the first and second stage basically non threatening at all, or make them only do decent dmg really close range.
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Jun 9 2016 07:05am
how bout just buff the less used chars instead of nerfing the good ones. If everyone is op no one is :thumbsup:
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Jun 9 2016 07:26am
Quote (pypyjyys @ Jun 9 2016 07:05am)
how bout just buff the less used chars instead of nerfing the good ones. If everyone is op no one is :thumbsup:


No because the one that can apply their damage the easiest becomes the best
That's an absolutely horrible way of balancing

This post was edited by FroggyG on Jun 9 2016 07:27am
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