sombra is a direct counter to snipers if her kit is what people think it is, as far as reinhardt i still think he's fine we discussed this before, until someone else has a shield as effective as his he will always see play.

The thing I hate most about him right now is the range of his ultimate
DVA's buffs definitely put her closer to Reinhardt in terms of blocking up front damage

This post was edited by FroggyG on Aug 21 2016 03:02am

thing is that's like the only thing that makes him fun to play. Pretty sure u can jump to avoid it as well, been awhile since i had to deal with one our main reinhardt is pretty solid i haven't been on the receiving end of a earthshatter in awhile, cept rando commando quickplay where i dont really care and give maybe 10% effort now adays.

You can't jump to avoid it. I've been ulted out of Genji's double jump.
The range pretty much levels an entire area of the map and guarantees multi kills.

This post was edited by FroggyG on Aug 21 2016 03:09am

oh, couldn't remember, normally our reinhardt just baits it out of the other teams reinhardt and then shields it. I literally cant tell you the last time i was successfully rein ult'd in comp.

Because you have a Reinhardt...

His ultimate range is absolutely ridiculous so if you don't have one of your own he can just level your whole team solo

This post was edited by FroggyG on Aug 21 2016 03:14am

ik, but there is no other option, rein is in the same spot lucio is in. not really op but will always be minimum b tier because of utility that no other character has, IMO.

But the utility you speak of is the shield, not the ultimate. Lots of characters have big area CC ultimates but they're all fully counterable while his is only countered by someone else on the same hero.

hmm, i can see what your saying, maybe they should make it so u can jump to avoid it but the timing has to be perfect, so you at least have a chance.

Reinhardt's ultimate is the same range as Roadhog's hook and is higher than any character can jump. It will even hit you if you are on the payload. (If Genji double jumps on the payload he can get above it)

The only other way in the game that you can stop him from destroying everything in front of him is if Winston manages to get a lucky shield down before he uses it (but there are no preventative measures in the game other than another Reinhardt)
Other ultimates can be blocked by DVA or tanked by Lucio/Zenyatta after the fact since they don't apply 2.5 second stun.

This post was edited by FroggyG on Aug 21 2016 03:31am