You don't use Lucio in 100% of scenarios so how could he possibly be God tier?

I still think McCree and Reinhardt are the strongest in the game by far because they are always useful
And that tier list definitely supports it
(The only time I've seen McCree not used is when people ran double Winston)

Also I think Mercy's ult should take longer to come up..

This post was edited by FroggyG on Jun 9 2016 12:48am

i feel like there is no real predicting atm.

compositions will become way more diverse and i'm sure blizzard will have some balancing to do.

i think hanzo will be used more, along with mei.

There is no doubt in my mind that Widow, McCree, Reinhardt, Mercy are the strongest by a LOT right now

Reinhardt for his damage OR his shield (either one)
Mercy for the quick ult charge time
McCree for... McCree
Widow for single handedly annihilating teams (the competitive matches I see are just Widow vs Widow and then the Widow that wins kills like 3 more people on your team)

This post was edited by FroggyG on Jun 9 2016 01:19am

I think a decent nerf to Reinhardt would be maybe 300-500 off his shield.

Mercy, her ult charges so fast its insane, they need to tone it way down.

McCree... so many different ways to nerf him. I hope they pick the right one

I read somewhere about a decent way to nerf Widow would be to make it so her Ulti pluses, instead of being 100% wallhack. So you can see the general area where people are/going but not just straight up wallhack. At the VERY least they need to make it so you can easily hear her when she casts ulti.

She isn't broken for the ulti though
It's because she just looks at your team and 3 of you are dead

Need to heavily reduce the time to get a full powered shot

This post was edited by FroggyG on Jun 9 2016 01:30am

I mean yeah I guess if you have a shitty comp. Just sit behind your reinhardt shield or winston bubbles. I think if they nerf her damage in any way she's just gonna be trash.

Watch some competitive matches
The shields don't matter half the time
She can re-angle and sometimes just shoot right over them

Not to mention grouping up is GAME suicide once Zarya has her ult up (and sometimes Reinhardt ult)

She's ridiculous

This post was edited by FroggyG on Jun 9 2016 01:37am

So how do you think she should be nerfed? Longer charge up time? Just less damage straight up?

I have seen some comp games and I know she is insane.

Definitely charge up time
Punishes missing instead of her just shooting again a second later and killing you anyway

This post was edited by FroggyG on Jun 9 2016 01:43am

i think the charge up time is already stupid.... she jsut seems so strong cuz games new. give it a year and people will find out ways to make widowmaker not as useful

if anything they should reduce her mobility, not her dmg. make her scope have less zoom

hanzo can shoot stronger shots faster but he doesn't have as good accuracy or mobility, and his ultimate is huge aoe