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Jul 17 2013 05:59pm


Добро пожаловать в Кремниевую Долину. В этой странной галактике мне сразу пришлось столкнуться со звездами.
Я получил мейл от секретаря Стива Джобса о том, что тот будет рад со мной встретиться, если я смогу уделить ему час-другой. Я ответил: конечно, хотя и не понимал, к чему бы это.
Встреча состоялась в штаб-квартире Apple в аллее Бесконечного цикла. Меня встретили Джобе и его главный технарь Эви Теванян. В то время Apple как раз начала работать над OS X, операционной системой на базе Unix, которую им уда-лось закончить только к сентябрю 2000-го. Встреча проходила неформально. Сначала Джобе пытался меня уверить, будто в области настольных компьютеров есть всего два игрока: Microsoft и Apple, и что для Linux, будет лучше всего, если я подамся в Apple и привлеку сообщество, работающее с открытыми исходниками, к созданию Mac OS X.
Я продолжал разговор, потому что мне хотелось побольше узнать об их новой операционной системе. В ее основе лежит микроядро Mach, разработанное в Университете Карнеги— Меллона. В середине 90-х ожидалось, что Mach станет венцом операционных систем, и многие им интересовались. На самом деле IBM и Apple использовали Mach как основу своей злополучной совместной операционной системы Taligent.
Джобе особо упирал на то, что низкоуровневое ядро Mach является открытым. Тут он несколько блефовал: какой толк от того, что базовая операционная система — слой нижнего уровня — открыта, если над ней лежит Mac-уровень и он закрыт?
Понятно, Джобе не знал, что сам я невысокого мнения о микроядре Mach. Если честно, я считаю его полной мурой. Оно содержит все конструктивные ошибки, какие только можно придумать, и еще некоторые сверх того. Одним из аргументов против микроядер всегда была их низкая производительность. Поэтому существовало множество исследований для определения того, как заставить микроядро по-настоящему хорошо работать. Все полученные рекомендации были воплощены в Mach. В результате получилась очень сложная система со своими собственными законами. Но она все равно была не слишком эффективной.
Эви Теванян работал над Mach еще на стадии университетского проекта. Мне было интересно обсудить проблемы, волновавшие их со Стивом. В то же время мы принципиально расходились по техническим вопросам. Я не видел смысла для специалистов по открытым исходникам и Linux ввязываться в это дело. Конечно, я понимал, зачем они хотели привлечь разработчиков открытого ПО к своей системе: они видели огромный потенциал Linux-сообщества. Не думаю, впрочем, что они осознавали его полностью. Вряд ли Джобе понимал, что у Linux потенциально больше пользователей, чем у Apple, хотя пользовательская база у них и разная. И вряд ли Стив так же решительно отмел бы Linux в качестве операционной системы для настольных компьютеров сегодня, как сделал это три года назад.
Я объяснил, чем мне не нравится Mach. Легко понять, что это не вызвало у моих собеседников энтузиазма. Безусловно, они и раньше слышали эти аргументы. Я был явно зациклен на Linux, а Теванян — на Mach. Было интересно послушать их рассуждения о технических вопросах. Одна из очевидных для меня проблем заключалась в поддержке новой операционной системой старых Mac-приложений. Они планировали справиться со всеми старыми программами с помощью уровня совместимости. Все старые приложения должны были работать с помощью нового дополнительного процесса. Но один из главных недостатков старой Mac-системы — это отсутствие защиты памяти, а такое решение его никак не устраняло. Получалось, что защита памяти будет реализована только для новых приложений. Мне это казалось бессмысленным.
Наши взгляды на мир расходились кардинально. Стив был Стивом, точно таким, каким его рисует пресса. Он был поглощен своими целями, в особенности маркетингом. Меня интересовала техническая сторона и не очень волновали ни его цели, ни аргументы. Основной его аргумент был в том, что если я хочу завоевать рынок настольных компьютеров, то должен объединить силы с Apple. А мне это было до лампочки. Зачем мне нужна Apple? Я не видел в ней ничего интересного. И я не ставил целью своей жизни завоевание рынка настольных компьютеров. (Сейчас дело идет именно к этому, но я никогда не ставил себе такой цели.)
Его аргументация не блистала разнообразием. Он просто считал само собой разумеющимся, что я буду заинтересован. И оказался в тупике — у него в голове не укладывалось, что кого-то может совершенно не волновать увеличение рыночной доли Маков. Похоже, он был искренне поражен, как мало меня волнует размер рынка Маков и размер рынка Microsoft. И его трудно винить в том, что он не знал заранее, как сильно я не люблю Mach.
Но хотя мы разошлись с ним почти во всем, мне он в общем-то понравился.
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Jul 17 2013 06:03pm
Потом я впервые встретил Билла Джоя. Или, точнее, ушел со встречи с ним.
Честно говоря, когда я его встретил впервые, то не знал, кто это. Дело было на предварительном показе Jini. Jini — это созданный Sun Microsystems язык агента взаимодействия, расширение Java. Он обеспечивает гладкое сетевое взаимо-действие совершенно разных систем. Если у вас есть принтер с поддержкой Jini, то любое устройство, включенное в ту же сеть и говорящее на Jini, сможет автоматически его использовать.
Sun Microsystems пригласила меня вместе с дюжиной других представителей движения открытых исходников и технических специалистов на закрытый предварительный показ, который происходил в одном из центральных отелей Сан-Хосе во время выставки Java World. Почему нас позвали — они использовали для Jini то, что в Sun Microsystems считается открытыми исходниками.
Когда я туда шел, я вообще-то знал, что там будет Билл Джой. Он был ведущей фигурой в разработке BSD Unix, a позднее стал в Sun главным научным специалистом. До этого мы с ним не встречались. А тут он подошел ко мне и сказал, что он Билл Джой, а я как-то не среагировал. Я пришел туда не для встречи с ним, а чтобы узнать, что думает Sun по поводу открытых исходников и как они собираются их использовать. Через несколько минут Билл стал сам объяснять при-чины, по которым они остановились на открытых исходниках, а потом они показали некоторые возможности системы.
После этого они стали объяснять свою систему лицензирования. Она была ужасна. Совершенно дурацкая система. В основном дело сводилось к тому, что если кто-то другой захочет воспользоваться системой хотя бы полукоммерческим образом, то код уже не будет открытым. Эта идея показалась мне абсолютно идиотской. Меня очень возмутило, что в приглашении они объявили о своей приверженности открытым исходникам. Исходники были открыты в том смысле, что вы могли их читать, но если вы хотели их модифицировать или встраивать в свою инфраструктуру, то нужно было получить лицензию у Sun. Если бы Red Hat захотела включить в свою последнюю версию Linux на компакт-диске поддержку Jini, то компания должна была получить от Sun лицензию на технологию Jini.
Я задал несколько вопросов, чтобы убедиться, что все правильно понял.
Потом я ушел.
Я был просто в бешенстве, что они зазвали к себе людей под прикрытием движения открытых исходников. Когда я разобрался, в чем дело, я просто сказал: «Нет, меня все это не интересует», и ушел.
Я понял так, что они позвали меня, просто чтобы проинформировать, а если я проявлю заинтересованность, то и получить какое-нибудь высказывание для
прессы. Этот план провалился. Но, возможно, они чему-то научились. Видимо, позже их убедили открыть Star Office. To есть на все нужно время.
Как мне сказали, в тот день собрание продолжалось, потом был ужин, и все на него остались.
Моя вторая встреча с Биллом Джоем оказалась гораздо приятнее. Года через полтора он пригласил меня на суши.
Его секретарь позвонил мне, чтобы согласовать время. Билл живет и работает в Колорадо и, видимо, проводит одну неделю в месяц в Кремниевой Долине. Мы пошли в «Фуки Суши» в Пало-Алъто. Там готовят одно из лучших суши в Кремниевой Долине. Конечно, это не идет ни в какое сравнение с «Блоуфиш Суши» в Сан-Франциско, где без перерыва показывают японские мультфильмы, или с «Токио гоу гоу» в Мишен (Мишен (Mission) — район Сан-Франциско. — Прим. пер) с их хипповой публикой, или с «Суши Ран» в Сауса-лито, с их важными посетителями, или с «Сето Суши» в Саннивейле, где подают самое лучшее острое суши из тунца.
В общем, мы пошли в «Фуки Суши», и вышло довольно прикольно, потому что Билл пытался получить настоящий васаби. Тогда я этого не знал, но в большинстве японских ресторанов в Америке вместо васаби подают просто подкрашенный хрен. Оказывается, васаби растет только в японских ручьях и плохо поддается промышленному разведению. Билл пытался объяснить это официантке, но она его не понимала. Она была японка, но полагала, что васаби — это васаби. Он попросил ее узнать у шеф-повара.
Это снование туда-сюда было прикольным. Ужин вылился в дружеское общение. По сути Билл дал мне понять, что если я хочу работать на Sun, то должен его известить и он что-то организует. Но не это было главным. Важнее оказалась воз-можность обсудить разные вещи. Он начал вспоминать, как пять лет осуществлял техническую поддержку BSD Unix и как стал ценить предоставленные Sun коммерческие возможности. Говорил, как важно иметь подспорье в лице такой компании, как Sun. Мне было интересно послушать его рассказ о начальных годах Unix. И было совершенно наплевать, что мы так и не попробовали настоящий васаби. Я отчетливо помню, как подумал, что он, вероятно, самый приятный и интересный человек среди шишек, которых я встретил в Кремниевой Долине.
Перескочим на три года вперед. Я беру журнал «Wired» и вижу там его жутко негативную статью о техническом прогрессе под заголовком «Будущее в нас не нуждается». Я был разочарован. Ясно, что будущее в нас не нуждается. Но в этом нет ничего ужасного.
Не хочу разбирать его статью строчку за строчкой, но я думаю, что самым печальным для человечества было бы продолжать жить как живется, избегая дальнейшего развития. Видимо, Билл считает, что достижения вроде генетической модификации приведут нас к потере человеческого начала. Всем кажется, что всякое изменение античеловечно, потому что вот сейчас-то мы люди. Но если мы будем продолжать развиваться, то в любом случае через 10 тысяч лет мы не будем людьми по сегодняшним стандартам. Человечество просто примет другие формы.
В статье Билла звучит его страх перед этим фактом. А по-моему, пытаться ограничивать эволюцию — противоестественно и бесполезно. Вместо поисков двух собак, способных произвести необходимое потомство, мы, безусловно, обратимся к генетике; кажется неизбежным, что то же самое коснется и людей. Мне кажется, лучше изменить человеческую породу с помощью генетики, чем оставить все как есть. Я думаю, что в широком смысле гораздо интереснее способствовать эволюции не самих людей, а общества в целом, в каком бы направлении оно ни шло. Нельзя остановить технический прогресс и нельзя остановить развитие наших знаний о том, как работает наша вселенная и как устроены люди. Все меняется так быстро, что некоторых людей, как и Билла Джоя, это пугает. Но мне это представляется
частью естественной эволюции.
Я не согласен с Джоем в том, как нужно обходиться с нашим будущим, точно так же, как был не согласен с его пониманием открытых исходников. Я не согласился со Стивом Джобсом в вопросах технологии. Можно подумать, будто в первые годы в Кремниевой Долине я только и делал, что ни с кем не соглашался, но это не так. Я много программировал, водил Патрицию в зоопарк и вообще расширял свои горизонты: например, узнал горькую правду о васаби.
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Thats pretty much wat he said to me a few posts back. Kid u blow u cannot win vs The Beg and The Zul tag team verballing.Cry because I wear your shit clan tag.Im not in the mood to verball the shit out of u snp random. I always do why dont u just give up with ur shit sorc.Hes making up shit liek he has more money then us when he lives in a cardboard box. If kid has a family y is he trolling jsp and playing d2 in the first place? What are u 40 kid gtfo.You think u have won, yet u r owned. I highly doubt ur mexican box house living ass has more money then me. I get more money in a day then u have or anyone in ur family has even had in ur life. Ur mad raged wtf u mean we cannot handle it? Your bad kid just leave jsp being verballed by me and Beg.So you work @ burger king, your car is really a bike, your house is a cardboard box, your family is a bunch a rats, 3 cats who live outside your box, u have swedish fish that have been outside for 3 years, and a bird who lives on the tree above your box. And money? Lol Burger king doesnt pay good. I have no life yet ur the one raging? I own a lot more then a d2 disc kid rofl. I have my own comp, sry I can afford shit kid. I got nothing? I got more then u?You call use nerds yet u say u have a family with kids. So your saying ur 40, yet ur calling us nerds? Lol kid is so bad. So its illegal to come home from school and go on the come and verball some randoms right? So its ok for you to get out of bed without showing and come right onto jsp to get verballed. Im guessing that is ok.He Verballed u kid ROFL LOLOL. U got me scared because I raped u? Lol kid you are so fuckin dumb. I just told u wat the post was and ur still raging about it. Ps nice random zon in ur shitty sig. How much u pay for it? O wait your locked, besides u had no fg to begin with.You say u rape everyone with ur shit sorc, but yet u blow really bad.He lost brain cells from swallowing too much cum.Thats u buddy, jsp already knows u r owned. Kid just get out of here already. This shit is so fuckin funny. I am rofling so hard @ this kid trying to verbal me with the weakest shit ever. His brain cells have all died cuz of rage.Verballed again. I thought u were going afk seeing as ur the "only human" to stop going on jsp. Kid ur so stupid y post the most stupid shit I have ever, and jsp has ever heard. Just go afk and get out of here.So your saying u got raged so ur using ur post to try and gain epride? Kid your a joke u cannot handle The Zul. Every time u post ur epride goes down each time. You have been verballed stop posting kid. Your posts arent making sense anymore and ur raging like never b4. Dont get an anurism kid.So you are gay.LOL HE LOST VERBALLED!!! Guess he finally gave up. I mean once u get verballed by The Beg and The Zul, you can never recover.Actually that was you. I know you want to be me so much, but plz keep your gay sex life to urself and dont try to be me. Actually dont try to be me @ all. I dont like mexicans trying to be like me.We are talking about u and snp rand. U die with max sorb on, rofl u blow so bad. Im no one on bnet? Thats why your a fuckin random on jsp, and on bnet wtf u talking about. Im known kid. Check the sig.2nd time you have said this, and Ill say it again, Amor was talking to you seeing as I am good buddy's with him. Kid u got owned by 5 ppl already just stop kid. All you say is I have nothing, yet that is all you say, and when someone verbals you, you try to put it on me. Failed again.Failed @ bad quote with bad bolding. Fuckin dumb Austrailians. Why dont u go fuck some kangaroos to get rid of some of that rage. Or get fucked in the ass by ur mom some more.My friend is canadian u fuckin gook. Y dont u fuck some more kangaroo's. My friend is 100000000000000000000000x smarter then ur rand ass. Lol and how am I raging? Your making up shit to try and verbal me, but u fail each and every time. Im talking to my friends on vent and they are rofling @ u.LOL WTF R U SAYING KID UR SO DUMB LOLOLOLOLOL. I stroke my cock while Im fucking your mom in the pussy.I live in NY yet im canadian? Lol kids raging so bad because I raged and verballed him so hard in the last 2 topics. I guess 3 is the charm to make u crack.Lol wtf u talking about kid. U said he verballed me, now you say Im crying @ wat he said, kid stop posting your verballed. Its like 1000-0, already kid, you havent verballed me once.Um and? It was posted in the last thread. Like I said for the 5th fuckin time Amor is my friend he doesnt post that on me. How would I be owned when he said that to you?m not staring @ shit u fuckin random. If u could read u would see that I want the bitch to stop posting gay emo boys.Even though I am not a hacking spawn I know how they die. No skills and they blow.Lol Mines shit, yet urs is a pos paint sig. Worst thing I have ever seen, especially the shit zon in the sig. North Korea wont do shit to us. You can keep sucking his dick though. He likes Australians sucking his dick.Stfu u fuckin nerd u blow. U talk so much shit for getting 1 lucky kill? Just gtfo out of here kid no one likes u.Stfu u fuckin randass, you said the same shit 3 days ago, and your still bad stfu nerd.Because u dropped out when in first grade to play d2.LOL Y DO NERDS THINK THEY ARESOMETHING IF THEY POST WEED MONEY OR GUNS LOL THEY STILL BLOW @ D2.Ok? You seem to be the only one raging kiddo. They can see how verbally raped u got. Then like 1 or 2 friends u have will laugh at you and then leave u.Tear up because u said Milt should sell crack? Rofl ur more dumb then I thought. Im guessing all the rage coming from u has killed some brain cells. Its ok though, they dont come back.U blow wtf r u talking about? Your sounding like all the randoms that me and the beg verbal all the time.Attempt @ funny joke.....FAILED, GTFO RANDOM.U blow and Milton isnt white u fuckin nerd. Hes black. Idk how a black person is a wigger. Im guessing your native country of Mexico doesnt know the difference between wiggers/niggers.Obviously Milt, he blows. Randoms posting 1 kill thinking they are good LOLOL. Afk gotta togo sleep and school tomorrow I hope not though cuz its snowing.when u learn something about jsp, u will realize we dont care about your plastic guns, and fake money. Ut tried it with fake weed, and got verballed till they all quit.Lol this kids so fuckin dumb. Raging over his "Guns" Y would I learn about plastic hand guns for little kids from u? I could goto a store and buy 1. I guess the pvmer wants to duel us. Milt we Vent tomorrow.Lol. I live in NY he wouldnt stand a chance here. He would shit his pants.RAPED, HES BAD.Jenny u blow stop posting random shit.Milt Driving? LOL. Ill hear his music here in ny. Shits gonna be load.U better come visit milt. We be reppin the streets of ny and fuckin dem bitches all night long.Monica is mine, get over it.Ya I troll rofl. Thats y u spend your whole life on a video game.LOL THAT CLAN BLOWS, AND NICE PHOTOSHOPPED S/S'S, ALL FUCKIN BLACK LOLOL.Thats y I dont play d2 anymore randass? Learn some shit b4 u post. Your rage o meter must be high for u to start making up shit to try and get epride. And can u speak english? Shed some mo tears fo meh? LOLOL RANDOM. Gtfo kid, ur bad. Y would I cry over pixels?Nice fuckin clay randass. The only reason he wouldnt post a pic smoking it, is because there is nothing to smoke. And even if he did post a pic, he could have just rolled it up without anything in there. Kids bad like all the other randoms who try to get epride by posting guns, $, and drugs.Lol kid is raging so hard brain cells are starting to die. His come backs are getting worse and worse. I told him to stop, but I guess he cannot stop the rage. I guess he will just have to play some d2 to get his rage down by pvming. Then when he dies to a fallen his rage will be @ its peak.Lol I love how kids devote topics to me after I verbal the shit out of them. O well, I cannot be beat so they go afk and rage.Anime lover how many times do I have to say stfu and go suck on some kid. Your like 8 shouldnt u be in bed by now? Or has d2 consumed your life so much u dont goto school and sit around and play d2 all day.I sense rage Bryan. Does it matter if they can play a musical instrument? No. It isnt required in their music. They are singers, not rock groups. Its just like everyone else like Britney Spears, Jessica Simpson, etc. Do they play instuments? No they dont, they are singers. Its funny how u think everyone should listen to ur type of music, which Im guessing is rock, when all rockers do is play the same shit over and over again. Same drum beat, same everything. Rappers do a lot more then u think kid. Some have been in movies, and a lot will prolly be in movies in the next 10 years, and a lot of them donate to charity. Next time u try to diss out rap for being something that u dont like, learn the facts first kid. You have just been verballed.Cuz ur fuckin gay. I dont even play d2 anymore, and I can still shit on ur clan.Lol I dont even play d2 anymore randass, how could I have dueled ur shit clan? If u want I can go on there and shit rape ur clan 1v7. If u want to make up bullshit lies to gain epride, you will fail every time. I guessed I raged u soo much that u need to make up bullshit lies to look good on jsp. Gtfo kid u, and ur clan, are bad.Leave him man, hes a random who thinks hes good by posting 1 kill, then he gets posted on with like 10 kills and cries that his hdin wasnt rdy and didnt have gear. Y THE FUCK WHOULD U DUEL IF UR SHIT ISNT READY THEN U FUCKIN NOOB.Actually I just verballed u. Im guessing randoms dont realize when it happeneds to them. I will rape ur shit clan make a game.I really hope ur not talking to me, spawn.3 of the same s/s's just added some shitty paint to it, your bad. How u say 1v1? Your partner is right next to you, failed.I believe this was my post, editing... FAILED. Make a game for rape random.I do? Orly? And wat will u do if I dont? Rage some more on jsp? Rage me over the internet kid, u r nothing.Lol kids raged. Gj rejuved.Lol played since day 1? I think ive said that about 20 times, kid. Trying to play it off. You didnt even know wat diablo 2 was until aug 8 2006, then u joined jsp.Y would I want to be one of u randoms? I just have it in my sig cuz u guys rage so hard over it.Actually, your bad duels.And I care about ppl knowing who I am over the internet? Gtfo kid.Do u say anything besides rage and that the shitty clan pn owns everyone?Nothing much, just mad randoms dling hax to think they are good when they still blow. Auto top, auto aim, auto juv, auto duel, auto s/e, and some other shit. Plus d2 is laggy as fuck with everyone duping.Im waiting for u to make a game u fuckin gook.Kid dodges me, he goes afk when Im rdy to duel.congrats? So ur dodging me, Im waiting outside of town, btals costs 20 fg, something u dont, or will ever have.I dont play the game nerd, and I do go out. Im guessing ur one of those raging randoms who think they are good. Fuckin spawn.Btals is 20 fg, I could care less about it LOLOL. Plus I fuckin dont play d2 anymore, just got on to rape ur rand ass, and ur dodging me LOL. Ps it isnt btals, its rattlecage.Lol, I wouldnt talk about original if I were u randass. "you sit on here for 8 hours" WOW SO ORIGINAL DOOD. GIMME UR LIST OF ORIGS. Fuckin random. I see ur so raged that u dont realize wtf u r saying. Ur brain cells are dying as we speak.U towned after u came out and tried to lower resist me, and I fohed u when u were in town. U towned vs me. Plus u fuckin go pvming and dodged me, you blow. I have s/s's of u, wheres the s/s's on me?LOL DODGE CUZ BLOW.Wow wat a fuckin nerd. Stop trolling and spamming jsp random.Holy fuckin nerd. I joined May 5th, and I didnt even start posting till like aug rofl.I could beat that ez. If I started posting may 5th instead of like aug I would be @ like 20k posts.Lil raged there random?Like I give a fuck about reporting you, I just want to know which scrub fuck you are that I verballed on a daily basis in the past.Yeah, and you don't say that every time. Try to think up a comeback you fucking scrub. You seriously only say that. Like it even matters LOL. You are a joke. You fucking cried like a little bitch to Donny because your WoW account got banned. Kid is 28 years old, he fucking moved from d2 to WoW. Kid uses his moms welfare and food stamps to pay for WoW monthly, fucking sad. This retard rather pay for WoW, then to fucking eat. Seriously Dipset you get verballed by everyone. You were not good, you were horrible at EVERYTHING you do. Nothing has changed, just give up. What did you think Donny was going to do when you told him that, unban you from vent/d2pk? I don't think so, no one wants you back, that will not change.Yes I lie to myself. Why would I lie over the internet you fucking joke. Refer to last post fucking trash.Verbal essay. Kid got smashed. Nothing to say back? Thought so you fucking little bitch. You are under my control now, now fucking hang yourself like a good little bitch.Takes me 10 seconds to type. Making these kids cry is well worth it. I tried being nice, but it doesn't work for these fucking mental cases. Verballing them int he only way to go now.Ouch the random calling, retard is desperate LOL. Yes my "d2jsp life" Good one retard. We all know your life is Blizzard. I'm a nobody, yet you are getting smacked down. I guess you got the shit verballed out of you by a nobody random, how does that feel retard? The suicide joke is old, I already told yout o kill yourself. Get some new material faggot.You obviously don't know what welfare is scrub. Sad seeing that you use it every day of your life.You obviously don't understand logic. You could use something everyday and not know what it is. Man you are fucking retarded. Stick to your life of d2 that you tihnk you are good at.Kid you get verballed again. You could back to jsp thinking that it will be save to post after months on end, but you still get fucking smashed the fuck up, and verballed until you want to die. Just leave for good already, the world will be a much better place. It was much better when you got smashed off of d2pk, and banned from vent. Shit was soo peaceful.


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The same will happen if you leave jsp, SO JUST GO ALREADY.Seeing as you never have killed me, I would assume there is no s/s's you have of me. Stop failing nerd.I've never heard of Cruel-Master. Must be one of those faggot wannabes. Kid doesn't even have the CrueL- tag right......Lol.... This kid got verballed again.Are you still on my dick you fucking homosexual? I fucking made your little bitch ass cry last night, why do you want to go against me again. You left fucking jsp, and cried. Mark told us everyone. Do you think I was going to be nice again? I think not you fucking nerd. Go die, you are not wanted here.Only thing you can come back with. You are all washed up, go get good. I will be afking for a bit, got some shit to do. I hope Mark doesn't im me again asking me to stop verballing the fuck out of you.Ok? Chair posted it you fucking retard. When I verbal you, even if I were to use someone elses shit, I still did the verballing. It happens on a daily basis, you should know this by now.Hi retard, still on my dick I see. Kid you really need to drop your balls first before talking to me, you are what 9? Seriously get good retard, go outside and get a life.Really, you aren't even known, you would have no idea who I am, just stop talking retard.Man now I know for a fact you are a spawn. Lets take the best necro, sub, menzo, who ever, vs some shitty necro like you. You have the best gear, they have the worst. Their skill will beat your gear. If you sit there not knowing how to duel, they will shit on you, and run around you like a joke, kill you like nothing. Skill will usually always be > gear. Unless it is like #1 and #2 necros, otherwise probably not. or any hero for that matter.Who is speaking Gook, I am speaking English, what is up with you?Stop talking, I don't need a scrub interpreter. If he wants to talk, he can be a fucking man and talk to me personally, not through some bitch tool.Wow I'm a fucking idiot, I knew that already... I forgot it about 200 times. I will probably be on late tomorrow.LOL.......... He doesn't have Zuljian as a mod, or else he would see nothing but good.Seriously you are easy. Even when I wasn't flaming you, I was still winning. Now when I am actually doing some verballing, it is like me stepping on an ant, easy as fuck.I said I was going to be nice to everyone, but this kid rides my dick hard. He needed to get the verbal. I'm fine with everyone, but him and like 3 other retards. LOL NICE STACH MEXICAN NIGGER. KID LOOKS DIRTY AS FUCK.Says the kid who cannot even form a proper sentence. Go choke on a dick nerd.Kid are you serious? My 2 year old brother could kick your ass. "I was jumped by 8 guys while I was with my girl, ran to my car, and ran them over." So basically you were able to get away from 8 guys, and get to your car, leaving your girl sitting there. If you were jumped by 8 guys, you wouldn't be here. What guy leaves a girl? A fucking nerd. Also if you were hood, or some shit, you wouldn't be on a 10 year old game, talking on a kids d2 trading site. kid lives in Kansas and thinks he is a fucking G LOL WHAT A JOKE. Go to a real city, and see how hood you are there G.This KOCKBRUSKI random was a kid Badolzon met 2 weeks ago. You joined last year Badfuck, stfu random.You keep posting and posting like you are liked by everyone, known, and good at d2.You are seriously the worst fucking random to have ever come on jsp. I have met tons of randoms before, but you are BY FAR the worst.You could here mid 2007 and think you are the best dueler. No one has fucking heard of you. I could make a poll in EVERY SINGLE topic here on jsp asking who you are, and 100% of the people, excluding yourself, would have NO FUCKING CLUE who you are.You lie about everything, even when you are caught 200000 times, you still try to make yourself look like someone.You are a dirty fucking illegal Mexican who needs to get the fuck back to his country.You are not liked here.You are not known here.You will never EVER be part of the jsp family.I suggest you leave and never come back.You are not wanted here.You are a filthy fucking nerd who needs to grow the fuck up and die already.You are by far the WORST dueler, verballer, liar, and shit scum to have ever come to jsp.You need to get this shit through your thick as fuck Mexican skull that you are all of the above.Now leave my fucking forums you fucking Mexican illegal bitch, before I fucking call homeland security and forcefully get your the fuck out of my country. Without you Jsp will be one step closer to a better place.Dodged like the little bitch you are. Kid you read it, and you are fucking crying like a little bitch as your mom is breast feeding you. You are pathetic, just fucking leave already. You seriously think you can verbal people, but when you go up against the master Zuljian, you get your shit slammed down. Don't EVER challenge me.You don't even know what an essay is you fucking clown. Just kill yourself for being soo retarded.2 hours? It isn't my fault you type 2 wpm, even though you are on the computer 24/7. I type over 150 wpm, get good fucking random.Nice "art of faggotry" Never heard of it. You must have invented it/president since you know soo much about it.Everyone here likes me, as I said before, NO ONE likes you. Nice you are basically pawning yourself on me. You are the moron, you are not liked, just kill yourself. YOU HAVE NO D2 SKILLS YOU FUCKING MORON.Actually, I just owned you.Nice comeback kid, I guess you learned those from your "books that you read." Kid is ignoring me because he cannot fucking see with all of those tears rolling down your eyes. Why don't you are your Romanian whores to help you out kid. Or maybe ask your daddy to fly you to another one of your houses so you can take a bath in diamonds to cool out your rage.Yeah you fail nerd. I have made more fg on sigs, then pennies your house is worth.If you want to get embarassed go ahead. I wont be home for a week, so have fun. Maybe in a week you get someone to make a sig for you, pay them fg, and then duel me. Go ahead though.Stop posting and hopping on my dick. No one likes you, you are not known, and you are horrible. You are like 8 years old, your balls have not dropped yet, and it sounds like you are sucking dick with voice cracks. Kill yourself. Atleast she is loved by her family, unlike you.. How was Rico? I heard your brother kicked you out pretty fucking quick....Oh and I hear you used to go try and do drugs with her brother, go kill yourself with X next time nerd fuck. Frank, kiddo, you are all over her. You are obsessed with her. fuck rage essays, pussy essays are where its atwe have become best friends over the past few years. you have been there for me through so much. when i was still at the high school, you were there for me when i needed to talk and you still are even though we have to communicate mostly through e-mail now. but, when i do see you, it makes me so happy. it makes me miss you more, but seeing you always puts a smile on my face. you know that. i miss everything about you. the way you smell, your smile, how you would wink at me almost all the time, how we would always say hey you to each other, the sound of your voice, our hugs, our venting sessions.. we have had so many good times.i think it all started freshman year. i noticed you in the hallway or something and all i wanted from that moment was for you to know who i was. and i got my wish :) after sophomore year, we still saw each other even though i didn’t have any classes with you. and what happened my junior year i think brought us even closer. after the funeral i saw you and talking to you made me feel a lot better. i just remember going home and thinking how thankful i was to have talked to you that day.the rest of junior year was good. we would pass each other in the hallways and you would catch me at my locker every once in a while. the note that i wrote to you that year made me feel better because i communicate better in writing rather than actually speaking. and you appreciated that note. that meant a lot. in the middle of the hallway you just gave me a big hug and that made me soo happy :)the end of that year i got kinda sad because i knew that i was going away to delaware to work for the whole summer so i couldn’t see you a lot. but we went right back into the swing of things when my senior year started. and as you know the beginning of that year wasn’t easy for me.that divorce really fucked me up in the head, but somehow talking to you made me feel a lot better. you were a great friend that day when i saw you after school. it sucked that i had to always meet up with you after school because again, we didn’t have any classes together. you gave me a lot of good advice that day and after talking to you, i felt a lot better about the whole thing. i was also happy that in spanish i was able to see you when you would walk out of the office after talking to nora and viv and sarah. you always winked and smiled at me and i always smiled back.and christmas break that year when i couldn’t see you? forget it. i was a wreck. i don’t know what came over me, but something happened where everyday i was sitting in my house saying, “damn i miss you” and that was not fun. plus, when christmas break was over, i didn’t see you at all for like a month. we talked once we first got back, but after that, we kinda drifted apart for a while. i think we just needed a break from each other. even best friends need a break.but after a month i started to miss you so we met up again and it felt good to see you. we talked, caught up with things in life. then of course there was the falling out of me and you know who which happened about 3 times that year. i hated her, but i wanted to be her friend again. she was just being a bitch to me and having study with her didn’t make things better either. especially during the whole prom weekend planning situation.luckily, the same time that i had study, you weren’t really doing much in your class anyway so i came and talked to you. i couldn’t stand being in that room with her and her boyfriend so i just needed to see you. and that made things a lot better. you let me talk to you, say what was on my mind, then we would hug and you would tell me that everything would be okay.and in the end, everything did turn out okay. you were right as always. when graduation came around, i didn’t want to say goodbye to you. as the days went by, i was dreading it and dreading it, but it had to happen. after i was finished with my environmental science final, i came by and we said our last goodbye before graduation.i don’t really remember what we talked about, but i do remember that i gave you a copy of my senior picture because i figured i might as well since you wanted a picture of me in my prom dress for you to keep. that reminds me, what you wrote in my yearbook was so sweet!! <33 i read it every chance i get and i smile every time i read it. you’re great. i got teary eyed when we said goodbye and i’ll never forget you smiling at me and saying it’s all going to be okay. i walked out and drove home.so now graduation is here. a day that i wanted so badly to happen, but at the same time didn’t want to face. we saw each other before walking out onto the field and after the ceremony, i didn’t expect you to find me so quickly and come give be a big hug and say congrats i’m so happy for you. you came over to me quick and that made me smile. after i got my scholarship stuff and diploma in the cafeteria, we took a picture together, and that moment would be the last time i would see you for 4 months :( i have that picture on my wall in my dorm room by the way.come october 20, i was so excited to see you! you gave me a hug and it felt good to be in your arms again. even though we didn’t get to talk for long, it made me so happy and i was looking forward to seeing you again. when i came home for winter break, i saw you on december 21 and that was probably the happiest day i had ever had talking to you. we got a chance to catch up and we talked for about 20 minutes. it felt good talking about things that had been happening in each others lives. when we hugged when i saw you that day, and even the time i saw you before that, you said it’s good to see you with a smile on your face. it felt good knowing that you were happy to see me.i didn’t know if i wanted to see you before i went back to school. i was starting to question whether or not we should talk a lot anymore, but then at the last minute, i was like you know what? i love and miss you and i want to see you. so i drove there, went inside, found you and i felt so happy. a weight was kinda lifted off my shoulders because everything was okay between us. and i was worried about that. idk why.again, we didn’t really talk for long, but it was enough time to say oh how was your christmas, were you safe during the snow, i miss you, it’s good to see you and all that stuff. we hugged, i told you that i miss you so much, and that was it.now it’s the present. 4 days since i’ve seen you and no one would have ever imagined what went down early saturday morning in this town. i wish i could talk to you because you helped me when this happened junior year, and even though i’m not at the high school anymore and you are, i wish i still was because i could see you and you would comfort me in this situation. this just sucks. i hope the week goes along smoothly for you, all the teachers, and the rest of the students. good luck with mid-terms and have a great birthday next week <33 this really has taught me to treasure everything and tell the people that you love, how much they mean to you. and i know that you know that you mean so much to me, but i’m gonna say it again. you mean so much to me and i don’t know what i would have done without you. you made high school really great for me and we became best friends and we will always be best friends.i can’t thank you enough for everything you did for me and all the things you got me through. i love you more than you will ever know and i always will no matter what. no matter where my life takes me, you will always have a special place in my heart. i think about you everyday and i’ll always think of you and smile. you’re the best and you’re an amazing person. i’m so thankful to have met you and i’ll never forget you for the rest of my life. happy early birthday you! i love you so much <333333 :) You have 20 multi accounts in which ytou post shit on. You try to flame people, but you fail. Your brother hates you, your sister hates you, and your parents hate you. No one wants you to be with them. You are wanted by the cops, and I hope you fucking get arrested, and go to jail. You are on jsp constantly on all of your accounts trying to post shit, but you fail. It is seriously time for you to grow the fuck up, and kill yourself. You say we all lie, but you make up bullshit stories 24/7. You cannot spell, you have no intelligence, and you are a fuck up in life. Why do you continue to live? You are mad Tati loves me, and doesn't want a faggot like you. Enough is enough, she doesn't want you. You need to realize that and fuck up another girl's life, because you fail at trying to fuck up Tati's life. Maybe you should try for Christine. Just stop posting lies, pics, and shit. You are a failure and you are hated throughout jsp, your family, and in life. Ok, you're raged you didn't make the cut. Scott you fail at life. You are an ugly fucking loser, and I am not going to actually explain it again, but I know her in real life. Just fucking kill yourself already you sack of worthless shit. You are shit, Clan ReV is shit, just fuckng end your life already. Who was doing math? I don't want to have to help you with your homework kid, that would be cheating. Your teacher might give me time out or some shit. Ok? I know that, 100 is average, but 130 isn't high at all. All the niggers/wiggers with 10, like yourself, have lowered the average. Sure.... Excuses.. You're a retard. I didn't verbal my girl friend, she can do w/e the fuck she wants, you just fucking fail. I'm dating a girl in real life for the 20th fucking time. Seriously go get registered as a retard, I might actually feel sorry for you then. Because you are...? You love to be on my dick, you are a faggot, get good. 130 is still low, get smarter. Jsp is not helping you, nor the fact that you dropped out of school. Why would I verbal my girl friend you fucking idiot, seriously stop trying. No you are the retard. Raped out of my thread, smashed....1v7 verballing, just like in diablo, you still get smashed.
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Jul 18 2013 02:43am
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тс, ты бы перед началом отписал бы, что это за книга хоть. я читал, и то не сразу понял, потому как дело было лет 7 (9?) назад.
надо будет перечитать, сравнить, что изменилось )

ps. если из всей книги тебя наиболее впечатлил кусок бесед с различными маркетологами, это печально.
pps. ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ради_удовольствия
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